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Frank Serraiocco

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Japanese Black Pine Fall/Winter Care
« on: November 03, 2010, 06:56 PM »
A while back I came across this website and it has a few suggestions that many other books and websites did not have.  Take a look at this article on Japanese Black Pine Fall and Winter care and let me know what you think.  I'm especially curious about the needle cutting that it suggests when the needles of a black pine grow to more than about 3 - 4 inches.

http://bonsai.shikoku-np.co.jp/en/shugi/2009/02/post-7.html

Let me know what you think.

Frank
 

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Re: Japanese Black Pine Fall/Winter Care
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2010, 09:10 PM »
Um, not sure what to think. If you practice bud (candle) removal in the summer, pull old needles in the fall and manage fertilizer ad water, most trees don't need much else. We do cut really long needles that are left on weak interior buds or on single summer candles that grow excessively long. But most of this work can be accomplished with good summer and fall wok. Now, I have cut the long needles of trees early in development (or after digging from the growing field) to stimulate some back budding, bt not on a regular schedule.

If you want to learn how to do this well, look at JOnas' website www.bonsaitonight.com and get Boon's DVDs detailing this work.

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Re: Japanese Black Pine Fall/Winter Care
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2010, 02:04 PM »
Your response is basically what I expected.  Since the majority of my black pines are still early in their development I actually do plan on cutting the needles because I did not do the summer decandling process other than pinching back larger candles; because of that, some of the needles on my pines are 3-6 inches long which makes it look terrible and they end up blocking sunlight from hitting the buds.  Next year however I do plan on decandling my pines to increase ramification and create smaller needles. 


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John Romano

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Re: Japanese Black Pine Fall/Winter Care
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2010, 02:33 PM »
Frank,
Also the article said that it makes it easier to wire and less likely to damage needles when you have shorter needles.  They suggest that damaged/broken needles can encourage fungus, etc.  Makes logical sense but don't know the science behind that statement.  It DOES make it easier to wire with shorter needles though.  If you have overly long needles, it does not hurt at all to cut some.  As John K. said, we usually cut overly long needles that develop in weaker areas on the tree and sometimes cut any stragglers before a show so that you have uniform lengths.  Also, sometimes things get lost in translation - this might have been a nursery specializing in pre-bonsai black pines and they may not candle prune all of them for whatever reason so cutting needles is an alternative for them - who knows!
I also do cut needles on my smaller Ponderosas - still looking for the magic formula to get them _real_ short  :-[
Good luck with our pines!
A fellow black pine-o-philiac!
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Re: Japanese Black Pine Fall/Winter Care
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2010, 06:10 PM »
Frank,
The real benefit of decandling pines early in the development cycle is to increase the ramification of trees and then slow down the growth of branches so that they don't become too thick too quickly. Works well.