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General Category => General Bonsai Discussion => Topic started by: JRob on July 02, 2014, 07:54 AM

Title: Where is everyone?
Post by: JRob on July 02, 2014, 07:54 AM
Where is everyone. The group has been silent lately? This time of year we should be seeing tons of post and activity. JRob
Title: Re: Where is everyone?
Post by: Adair M on July 02, 2014, 09:17 AM
You would think so!

Personally, I've been very busy with bonsai related matters.  Taught a couple workshops at Plant City Bonsai, went to a Boon Intensive early in June, and now it's time to decandle.  Cut back on my seigen Japanese Maple last night.

As a matter of fact, I have decandled two trees this morning.  Hard to type with pine sap on my fingers!
Title: Re: Where is everyone?
Post by: bwaynef on July 02, 2014, 09:26 AM
For whatever reason, the summer months have historically been pretty slow around this board.  I can come up with a few reasons that've kept me from posting more lately ...and I'm sure others have as many reasons.  Hopefully over the weekend I'll have some time to do some bonsai work.  I might even have time for pictures.


How's that book review going JRob?
Title: Re: Where is everyone?
Post by: MatsuBonsai on July 02, 2014, 09:36 AM
Lurking. Who knew work and family too up so much time. :)

Just switched jobs, again, so hope to have some more time and energy to devote to trees and documenting the process. Looking forward to Nashville Regional Show, too!
Title: Re: Where is everyone?
Post by: Judy on July 02, 2014, 11:11 AM
playing junior arborist in my spare time, who knew planting over 500 trees would be so much work 20 years later... :D
Title: Re: Where is everyone?
Post by: fibonaccifemme on July 02, 2014, 04:38 PM
Just returned from 10 days hiking in Great Basin National Park, Nevada.
Saw awesome bristlecone pines and did some climbing.
Title: Re: Where is everyone?
Post by: coh on July 02, 2014, 09:57 PM
Everyone's been busy fighting on another forum that will remain nameless  :)
Title: Re: Where is everyone?
Post by: Herman on July 03, 2014, 03:55 AM
Everyone's been busy fighting on another forum that will remain nameless  :)

lol, why nameless?

It's very quiet by me, been wiring pines for other people and keep forgetting to take pics...doing another one next weekend, will maybe post it?

can post some winter pics of my bare thorn trees

kind regards
Herman
Title: Re: Where is everyone?
Post by: coh on July 03, 2014, 11:10 AM
Everyone's been busy fighting on another forum that will remain nameless  :)

lol, why nameless?

It's very quiet by me, been wiring pines for other people and keep forgetting to take pics...doing another one next weekend, will maybe post it?

can post some winter pics of my bare thorn trees

kind regards
Herman

It doesn't need to be named...everyone who knows bonsai forums knows which one I'm referring to!
Title: Re: Where is everyone?
Post by: Lordy on July 03, 2014, 11:18 AM


I've wanted to chime in but so far have been able to stay above the fray.  One common problem runs through all the posts there.  And that is not the only forum that a problem has arisen with that common problem.  Blind to the facts is all I can say.
Title: Re: Where is everyone?
Post by: bwaynef on July 03, 2014, 11:35 AM
Guys, we're not unaware that other forums exist.  I've linked to several when Joshua Hanzman asked (giving what I believe to be a pretty fair assessment of each), lamenting the fact that this one's often slow.  The one being mentioned is http://bonsainut.com (http://bonsainut.com) (<-- that's even clickable ...or should be).  We're also not unaware that some of the members here are active there.  I've posted a few times there this month. 

BUT

Please please please leave whatever's happening over there ...over there.  I don't want to kill this thread, but I do hope to kill that part of the conversation in this thread.


Fibonaccifemme, did you get any pics of those majestic old trees?
Title: Re: Where is everyone?
Post by: coh on July 03, 2014, 12:22 PM

Please please please leave whatever's happening over there ...over there.  I don't want to kill this thread, but I do hope to kill that part of the conversation in this thread.
Agree...sorry for bringing it up!

Chris
Title: Re: Where is everyone?
Post by: JRob on July 03, 2014, 01:02 PM
When I first became involed with bonsai in the Fall of 2008 I joined several forums this being one. I quicky left the others because of the nonsense that they allowed. For a long time now I have only participate in this one because as the title says it's been a bonsai study group, simply bonsai. I have neither the time nor patience for what was going on some of the other forums. I hope this one remains true to its goals and is policed accordingly. It would be a shame for it to digress from its state objective.

Title: Re: Where is everyone?
Post by: M. Frary on July 03, 2014, 03:48 PM
  Maybe it's because when a member posts a picture or starts a new thread no one here replies? I just updated 2 of mine and I don't know why because neither had replies.
 I'm not boo hooing  but come on people. Owen says on his Lurker Challenge thread he would like to see more threads and get this forum active. Maybe the pictures of collected material aren't liked or appreciated here?
  On the Bonsai Nut forum at least people show interest in everything bonsai. You may not like the replies you get but at least someone replies.
Title: Re: Where is everyone?
Post by: Sorce on July 03, 2014, 08:31 PM
working

Title: Re: Where is everyone?
Post by: Sorce on July 03, 2014, 08:33 PM
Wow that does work!

And backing up Shim in the Nut house.

I second M. Frary.

But.... Would rather be here!

C'mon lurkers.! 

Title: Re: Where is everyone?
Post by: Anthony on July 03, 2014, 09:08 PM
Family came avisiting.
Good Day
Anthony
Title: Re: Where is everyone?
Post by: Herman on July 04, 2014, 05:56 AM
Wow that does work!

And backing up Shim in the Nut house.

I second M. Frary.

But.... Would rather be here!

C'mon lurkers.! 

then let's start with us dude, lets post and reply to eachothers threads. Even if the old guard sees our posts as mickey mousing around....which is why I think they don't post replies to our threads so often...I'm not prepared to move to the nut house and deal with BS every day just because i post my trees and they don't agree with me...I have enough stress every day as it is...is my wife safe when she's alone at home, is my house secured enough, am i working hard enough to outshine the other people i work with that don't deserve the job but got it just because of their ethnic background, so that I can make a decent living for my family.... Bonsai brings me peace and I want to have that same peace on the net when i talk to other people about bonsai

kind regards
Herman
Title: Re: Where is everyone?
Post by: Sorce on July 04, 2014, 06:19 AM
Good Morning ( here ) Herman. Evening? There?

Ok. I gotta start with agreeing about the BS. And outshining everyone at work! ;)
I read the post that brings truth to what you told Adair about N....wow! Get it..N.lol
Sounds like one of those people you cant outshine cuz their BS "approach grafts" their nose to boss' anus, like the moon, just reflecting your shine.

Anyway......

I am happy i switched my soil mix to account for my ten hour work days, cuz those are now 12-14 hour work days! Ironworkin again...thinking about designing a collecting shovel, plenty of free copper scrap!, and on a lookout for material at the sites. I think the Dog bowl shaped plastic protectors for steel pipe ends would make great free training pots. And the $, doubled my income, maybe my own garden soon! ;D

Sorce
Title: Re: Where is everyone?
Post by: M. Frary on July 04, 2014, 07:13 AM
  There is great information to be had on all of these sites and since there is no club near me and my library only has one book on bonsai so these bonsai forums and the internet in general are really the only sources of information for me.
  Although last weekend I went to a bonsai show a couple hundred miles away and got to see some bonsai in person. Oh yeah. I was invited by Vance Wood and spent a day and a half with him in his booth. One of the nicest guys you could hope to meet. One of the greatest experiences of my 50 years.
Title: Re: Where is everyone?
Post by: John Kirby on July 04, 2014, 01:31 PM
I have been here for five years plugging along trying to be helpful. I have found myself getting cranky, thus less interested in trying to provide input to the nearly annual spate of new second year experts.

I work, commute, work on Bonsai. I have a number of real friends who are passionate about Bonsai. Some I have met here and we carry on doing Bonsai here or on the West Coast. That is why I keep coming back and trying to help, and I have learned a lot a well. Having someone like Boon or Bill Valvanis pop in and provide help is priceless.
Title: Re: Where is everyone?
Post by: JRob on July 04, 2014, 02:31 PM
John, Shimsuki is so excited to be going to Yale for his Master's Degree. He has been frequenting the New Haven web site and is excited about attending their meetings when he gets to the east coast. Having him home for the first summer in a couple of years has been great. The trees and the land scape are singing for joy with all the constant attention. He is having 16 yards of mulch delivered next week to put down in the gardens. Life is good. On this forum your advice and encouragement when we began our bonsai journey in the fall of 2008 was very much appreciated. Have a fun time next weekend. If I remember correctly you Conn. Club has a show and we'll be in Nashville with the gang. JRob.
Title: Re: Where is everyone?
Post by: Adair M on July 04, 2014, 04:38 PM
John, please continue to post here and encourage us 40 year not so experts!

Seriously, your experience and insight is invaluable. I feel my bonsai life has been enriched, largely due to your influence.
Title: Re: Where is everyone?
Post by: Judy on July 04, 2014, 05:04 PM
I concur with Adair, I have missed the element that was here when I joined of the more experienced people sharing their trees and talking about them.  I learned a lot just reading and watching.  And if they had something to say about my trees, then it was really terrific to have such experts guiding and helping. 

I know John has helped me out, and there are others, but I don't see them much here anymore. 
Title: Re: Where is everyone?
Post by: Anthony on July 04, 2014, 06:50 PM
Folks,

as tactfully as I can put it - no one enjoys being a source of information on a forum .
Bonsai binds through - friendship.

So if I knew John better, I would ask my brother-in-law if an invitation to come down and stay at the guest house on our Eastern seacoast, could be offered.
All John [ family ] would need is a rented car to travel around and food. He could stay up to 6 months as a North American visa is allowed, and this is why the house was built. To allow painters / sculptors or pthers a chance to recharge, or in John's case to say thank you for his efforts.

I have watched this over the years on a good many forums, the one's with the experience, leave after so many years, unappreciated, save by lip or as we say gum bumping.
Good Day
Anthony

* We also send physical gifts of appreciation
Title: Re: Where is everyone?
Post by: Adair M on July 04, 2014, 07:23 PM
In fairness to John, he post on this forum today. He posts quite a bit on Facebook, he travels a lot on business and on bonsai related matters. He and I have met at Boon's, and have conversed by email.

I have found John quote willing to share his knowledge and experience. Even cigars!
Title: Re: Where is everyone?
Post by: MatsuBonsai on July 05, 2014, 04:07 PM
I would like to see more projects from more people. I want to see what people are working on.

Let's put the study back in bonsai study group.
Title: Re: Where is everyone?
Post by: akeppler on July 05, 2014, 06:39 PM
In fairness to John, he post on this forum today. He posts quite a bit on Facebook, he travels a lot on business and on bonsai related matters. He and I have met at Boon's, and have conversed by email.

I have found John quote willing to share his knowledge and experience. Even cigars!

Thats a good shot of John. He could be on Americas Got Talent.
Title: Re: Where is everyone?
Post by: MatsuBonsai on July 05, 2014, 06:54 PM
How about you, Al?  Anything exciting in the works you would like to share?
Title: Re: Where is everyone?
Post by: Jason E on July 05, 2014, 08:58 PM
I concur with Adair, I have missed the element that was here when I joined of the more experienced people sharing their trees and talking about them.  I learned a lot just reading and watching.  And if they had something to say about my trees, then it was really terrific to have such experts guiding and helping. 

I feel the same, thanks Judy.
Title: Re: Where is everyone?
Post by: Owen Reich on July 05, 2014, 09:03 PM
Al, I'd like to see more of your deciduous tree projects; especially species other than maples (you've covered tridents very well).  Personally, I check this forum every day and contribute more nowadays when prompted.  Some may not comment waiting for somebody else to answer judging by the number of views vs comments.  

This forum is not flashy and can be a bit dry at times, but the information filter here is solid.  People seem to be afraid of negative feedback and that's not just online.  However, a number of beginners have posted seedlings far from being an impressive tree and received feedback and encouragement.

If everyone's trees were awesome, the forum would be worthless.  In the meantime, people can share their bonsai and recieve feedback (for free) from objective sources.  It helps.  Hopefully everyone will have awesome bonsai one day.  That's why I help  ;D

Title: Re: Where is everyone?
Post by: akeppler on July 06, 2014, 06:08 PM
Al, I'd like to see more of your deciduous tree projects; especially species other than maples (you've covered tridents very well).  Personally, I check this forum every day and contribute more nowadays when prompted.  Some may not comment waiting for somebody else to answer judging by the number of views vs comments.  

This forum is not flashy and can be a bit dry at times, but the information filter here is solid.  People seem to be afraid of negative feedback and that's not just online.  However, a number of beginners have posted seedlings far from being an impressive tree and received feedback and encouragement.

If everyone's trees were awesome, the forum would be worthless.  In the meantime, people can share their bonsai and recieve feedback (for free) from objective sources.  It helps.  Hopefully everyone will have awesome bonsai one day.  That's why I help  ;D

From the early days on Gardenweb being a list server, to being banished to Disneyland by Spike Hernandez, to posting on IBC to BonsaiPage where I had 5000 posts, to BonsaiTalk where I had 5000 posts and was intimately introduced to John Kirby whom I've met several times as well as John Calloway, Peter Tea and Chris Johnston and many more of the Boon Crowd. When BonsaiTalk went kerplunk, I established BonsaiNut as home base. I have never been much of a mass forum poster. I mean posting my trees all over the net just hoping for someone to say something. I know everyone lurks at all the web sites and sees the work going on. Most of them are members on other forums also so if they wanted to say something or contribute to a tree I've posted they are on the net to do so.

Two years ago I started a blog and have posted most everything I have done thus far over my bonsai career on that blog. My weather here is hot and dry. I do not do much outside during June to Sept. My average high for the past two weeks has been 105 daily. Thats average. A couple weeks ago we broke a 125 year old record with a 110. Monday and Tues are slated to be 107. I do not keep much other than tridents, junipers pines and elms. Not much else will grow here. California junipers seem to like it though. I do keep a few pyracanthas that are doing very well. They seem to like it hot also. Interestingly enough I have never had a good olive though I know it would do well, just havn't found it yet and pomegranites just don't do it for me.

This is one of my most recent projects. An old Prostrata juniper
Title: Re: Where is everyone?
Post by: akeppler on July 06, 2014, 06:09 PM
After nearly killing it with malathion due to heavy spidermite infestation, it is finally back on the road with new growth and hopefully now I can breath a little easier.
Title: Re: Where is everyone?
Post by: Owen Reich on July 06, 2014, 10:41 PM
Al, thanks for the info.  I have a blog and write articles as well.  It takes up a fair amount of free time as you know. 

Personally, I spend most of my time working on trees, but airports leave lots of free time to read everything here and post. 

This forum would be greatly improved if more people posted not just the work on a tree, but updates over the course of a year or multiple years.  The threads don't biodegrade  ;D.  The threads that MatsuBonsai and AdairM have been updating recently are great inspirational material.

I've met many of the people who post fairly often on here in person and have enjoyed the new connections. 

Title: Re: Where is everyone?
Post by: Adair M on July 07, 2014, 01:17 AM
Owen,

Be careful what you ask for!  Al is known to put up some hard core Stand Porn!

Trust me, you'll know it when you see it!
Title: Re: Where is everyone?
Post by: akeppler on July 07, 2014, 01:21 AM
I havn't had much free time the past six months. I have been spending all my free time helping my wife with breast cancer. Two more radiation treatments and she will be through. Maybe I can get to pruning some of my trees, they look like bushes right now.

Here is a pyracantha I managed to finally prune last week as chores eased up.

The tree right now is just starting to open the new buds so now is the time to get in there and really fix up all that grew too large.
Title: Re: Where is everyone?
Post by: akeppler on July 07, 2014, 01:24 AM
This is what it looked like earlier in the year when it wasn't growing like a striped ass ape.
Title: Re: Where is everyone?
Post by: Chrisl on July 07, 2014, 10:59 AM
Most of my material is simply growing out this yr.  I'm leaving for Ryan's here on the 10th for our first styling session.  I do have though 2 RMJ, 1 Itoigawa and one procumbens that are ready for styling.  So hopefully I'll have more to post soon. 

I do appreciate though everyone trying to share what they are doing...always interesting to see what others are working on!
Title: Re: Where is everyone?
Post by: Owen Reich on July 07, 2014, 12:27 PM
What are you feeding that thing?!?   It looks excellent Al. 
Title: Re: Where is everyone?
Post by: John Kirby on July 07, 2014, 07:22 PM
Al, hope things continue to move forward well. Thoughts are with you guys ss you. Work through this. John
Title: Re: Where is everyone?
Post by: akeppler on July 07, 2014, 07:42 PM
What are you feeding that thing?!?   It looks excellent Al. 




Its in my arms in my avatar.
Title: Re: Where is everyone?
Post by: Owen Reich on July 07, 2014, 08:16 PM
Humates baby!  Forgot.
Title: Re: Where is everyone?
Post by: akeppler on July 07, 2014, 10:35 PM
Al, hope things continue to move forward well. Thoughts are with you guys ss you. Work through this. John

Thanks John. Tomorrow is the last treatment and then she is done. 7 months total and it really took a toll on both of us. We are ready to do some camping and get the trailor out of storage. I have tons of stuff to do around the yard and a 100 tridents to prune.
Life is good....
Title: Re: Where is everyone?
Post by: Sorce on July 08, 2014, 06:08 AM
Al. Excellent to hear all is still well, and likely finished with treatment by the time you read this.  ;D Looking forward to the camping post, may the forest bring you and yours some well deserved peace!

 ??? Lost for words to accurately describe.....

  If I am half the husband you are, I'll be great.

Sorce
         


Title: Re: Where is everyone?
Post by: MatsuBonsai on July 08, 2014, 06:46 AM
Hi Al. That's good news. Sending good thoughts your way.
Title: Re: Where is everyone?
Post by: Don Blackmond on July 08, 2014, 07:43 AM
Al, hope things continue to move forward well. Thoughts are with you guys ss you. Work through this. John

Thanks John. Tomorrow is the last treatment and then she is done. 7 months total and it really took a toll on both of us. We are ready to do some camping and get the trailor out of storage. I have tons of stuff to do around the yard and a 100 tridents to prune.
Life is good....

Good luck today and I hope treatment is absolutely successful.  Get some rest.
Title: Re: Where is everyone?
Post by: Chrisl on July 08, 2014, 11:08 AM
Same here Al!  I'm sure you both need a good get away after all this!