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General Category => General Bonsai Discussion => Topic started by: Neli on October 30, 2013, 12:23 AM

Title: Weeping style crataegus
Post by: Neli on October 30, 2013, 12:23 AM
This is the first weeping style bonsai I would like to make. I know they are hard to make and maintain. They need constant wiring.I tried to make several virtuals, but some how it does not look right. The main problem is the direction and length of the primary branches. What do you think the problem is, and what can you advise?
There is a subtle difference in the direction of the branches. Some are going up and then down...some straight down,
Some go up up and then down, and one is more horizontal and then down.
I dont want one of those styles where the branches are weeping down and are very long. I would prefer it with defined pads and separation between the pads, with gentle weeping down.
Tried to look at pictures of weeping style bonsai and figure out how the branch structure is developed, but I think I am doing something wrong.
Any advise will be appreciated.
Title: Re: Weeping style crataegus
Post by: Neli on October 30, 2013, 12:25 AM
On this one the branches are going directly downwards.
I know the trunk needs to be thickened and more taper created. I plan to do that with some escape branches situated at the back. I dont feel like chopping it, since I like the elaborate movement of the trunk. The nebarii needs work which will be attended at during repotting time.
I have had the tree for few days only.
Title: Re: Weeping style crataegus
Post by: bwaynef on October 30, 2013, 10:36 AM
I have some difficulty bringing the very angular movement in the trunk inline with the weeping branches, especially as it's angled in the pot.  Have you considered tilting it a little?

I like the first virt best, and would recommend getting rid of the branch(es?) that go up before starting to weep.  The branch at the top and on the outside of the first bend in particular.
Title: Re: Weeping style crataegus
Post by: Neli on October 30, 2013, 10:50 AM
Thanks for the advise. In which direction tilting it?
I can still wire those branches, to shape them.
I plan to chop it just above the top left branch and use that as the apex. There is a shoot as drown that I can take to the right.
All the top part I want to keep for now to thicken the trunk, as a sacrifice branch.
Meanwhile I chopped short the top branches to prevent them from thickening too much and left the lower branches to grow and thicken.
Any other point of view?