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Dale Cochoy

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Re: Watering Head for Bonsai
« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2012, 07:26 PM »
Dale, does it have such a fine mist from say 3 ft'? 

Yes Chris. It's really the whole point of the system. You can water close or far with a beautiful mist instead of having a heavy mist/stream from a bad rose that blows the soil off. Use these with a solid brass shutoff valve and you control it continually with your thumb. Get a solid brass one, don't waste money on plastic or 1/2 plastic.
Something along these lines. No plastic.
http://www.amazon.com/Dramm-12353-Heavy-Duty-Brass-Shut-Off/dp/B000HHQAQY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1334445756&sr=8-1

You know, I THOUGHT the Masakunis were expensive, until I saw the prices on the junky ones at Sears while looking for this shutoff pic!
 

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Re: Watering Head for Bonsai
« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2012, 10:24 AM »
I too have been using a Masakuni nozzle for about twenty-five  years. It puts out the gentlest spray of any I've tried. The only problem is that the rose disk is kind of delicate if dropped, bumped or bitten by a crazy Border Collie but they're replaceable and I've been through several.
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Dale Cochoy

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Re: Watering Head for Bonsai
« Reply #17 on: April 16, 2012, 01:17 PM »
I too have been using a Masakuni nozzle for about twenty-five  years. It puts out the gentlest spray of any I've tried. The only problem is that the rose disk is kind of delicate if dropped, bumped or bitten by a crazy Border Collie but they're replaceable and I've been through several.
Paul

Paul,
Yes they dent , especially if dropped. I caution my wife quite a bit about dropping it on the gravel walks when she is done.
But, MANY MANY times I've gotten dents out of it by using a plastic or wood rounded rod, like a hammer handle for instance, to smooth it from inside while I hold the rose in my hand.

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Re: Watering Head for Bonsai
« Reply #18 on: April 16, 2012, 02:37 PM »
Thanks Dale.  Glad it works at lower pressure too.  That's the one main complaint I have from a cheapy H. Depot wand.  Masakuni for under $40...not bad at all for quality.
 

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Re: Watering Head for Bonsai
« Reply #19 on: April 26, 2012, 08:04 PM »

Picture showing comparison at low flow.


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Re: Watering Head for Bonsai
« Reply #20 on: May 04, 2012, 09:07 PM »
Hey All,
I bought both the Dramm and the Masakuni. Both are good. I do prefer the Masakuni, as I can get a finer softer spray than I can with the Dramm, plus it looks better!  Thanks everyone!

Brad
 

Chrisl

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Re: Watering Head for Bonsai
« Reply #21 on: May 05, 2012, 10:38 AM »
I received the Masakuni watering head yesterday.  It's much better than my cheapo Home Depot one lol  I really like it, the spray is indeed nice and gentle and handles lower water pressure very well too.  Good purchase.
 

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Re: Watering Head for Bonsai
« Reply #22 on: May 14, 2012, 04:07 PM »
I use the Lowe's ones and they are just fine....
I think it's really about adjusting the water pressure.
 

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Re: Watering Head for Bonsai
« Reply #23 on: May 15, 2012, 09:34 AM »
I've had my Dramm water breaker for a few weeks now, and really like it.  It took some getting used to over the Masakuni, because the Masakuni has a finer spray.  But, the Dramm seems to do the job a lot quicker, and my watering time has been cut by a third I would estimate.
 

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Re: Watering Head for Bonsai
« Reply #24 on: May 15, 2012, 02:39 PM »
Call me convinced!  Ordering the Masakuni now.  The major problem I have had is too high a pressure when watering in a hurry because of work schedule.    Should have known Masakuni had the answer!
 

Dave G

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Re: Watering Head for Bonsai
« Reply #25 on: May 15, 2012, 08:09 PM »
I've had my Dramm water breaker for a few weeks now, and really like it.  It took some getting used to over the Masakuni, because the Masakuni has a finer spray.  But, the Dramm seems to do the job a lot quicker, and my watering time has been cut by a third I would estimate.

I have a 30" dramm wand with the touch n flow trigger that I like a lot too, it makes watering a breeze
http://www.amazon.com/Dramm-12804-Touch-N-Flow-Premium-Watering/dp/B000PL1XSC/ref=pd_sim_lg_3

 

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Re: Watering Head for Bonsai
« Reply #26 on: May 15, 2012, 11:39 PM »
Call me convinced!  Ordering the Masakuni now.  The major problem I have had is too high a pressure when watering in a hurry because of work schedule.    Should have known Masakuni had the answer!

Dennis, buy the brass valve that Dale mentioned.  I bought both the Masakuni and that valve off Amazon.  Works really well controlling the pressure.  The two together is excellent.

And mcpesq817, I hear ya on time.  It does take longer using the Masakuni head, but fortunately I don't have many trees so it's not an issue for me.  But if I had many trees, I'd go with the Dramm too.
 

William N. Valavanis

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Re: Watering Head for Bonsai
« Reply #27 on: May 16, 2012, 12:08 AM »
I've been using the Masakuni watering nozzles for decades and love them. Tried the Chinese nozzles, but as discussed here, they are inferior because of the large hole sizes. The only problem with the Masakuni nozzle rose is that it dents very easily when dropped and it does get dropped quite a bit. When dented the small streams of water are concentrated in one area and disturbs the soil and moss.

BUT I just found a better nozzle than Masakuni, and it's made right here in the USA. In the past I tried the Dramm water breakers with their wands but the 400 holes in the nozzle is far too hard for the bonsai. They now have a new series with over 1,000 micro holes which is super! There are two models, the orange head has a wide spray and the green head concentrates the water flow to a narrower area, but with the same 1,000 micro holes. In one area of my garden the water pressure is not too high so the green nozzle with the narrow area works great. In other areas of my garden with more water pressure the wider orange nozzle is used.

AND I discovered that Dramm has a new Touch 'N Flow Pro water wand which has an excellent turn off built right in the wand! Works great and comes in two lengths, 16" and 30".

And I was not even looking for a new watering nozzle...
 

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Re: Watering Head for Bonsai
« Reply #28 on: May 16, 2012, 08:39 AM »
They now have a new series with over 1,000 micro holes which is super! There are two models, the orange head has a wide spray and the green head concentrates the water flow to a narrower area, but with the same 1,000 micro holes.

How are these different than the one I posted in the 3rd or 4th reply to this topic.  The one I linked to is red w/ over 1,000 holes.  I haven't seen the green or orange ones, but I'd be surprised if the orange one you describe is much different than the red one I've linked to.
 

mcpesq817

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Re: Watering Head for Bonsai
« Reply #29 on: May 16, 2012, 09:30 AM »
I think I have the Dramm 400 hole aluminum head.  The water stream is a bit strong, and I might eventually try out one of the heads with more holes.  I didn't go with the 750 or 1000 hole heads because I think those were plastic, but given the quality of their products, I imagine the plastic is ok (I have an 18" wand, water breaker head and the brass shut off valve).

I did find that turning the water full blast, the spray actually came out finer through the breaker than turning the water on less than all the way.  A bit counterintuitive perhaps, but that's been my experience.