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trident forest thoughts
« on: October 04, 2015, 04:07 PM »
Thoughts from the group....I purchased a young trident forest of approx 11 pencil sized trunks. I was thinking about separating each tree and re-potting to  individual pots to get faster and larger growth.The roots are a entangled mess . Your thoughts on whether if they are tough enough plants to endure this and if so, how to go about doing it and time of year (spring I suppose).....Thanks in advance
 

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Re: trident forest thoughts
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2015, 05:36 PM »
If you bought it as a way to get 11 tridents for a low price, why not?

On the other hand, I would keep it as a forest, cutting back and/or limiting the foliage on the ones I want to remain short and thin (e.g.., ones in back) and letting the ones I want to thicken (e.g., ones in the focal point of the composition) grow. It is much more difficult to crowd big trees into a forest than it is to make a forest of small trees and grow it into a forest of bigger trees, IMHO.
 

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Re: trident forest thoughts
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2015, 01:52 AM »
I have to agree with Osoyoung.

Otherwise separate it and sort out the tangled mess of roots and then plant it back as the original forest.  At least you then know that you have sorted out the roots, soil etc.  It also allows you to move a few of the trees around should you so want. 

But definitely grow it as a forest.
 

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Re: trident forest thoughts
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2015, 08:49 AM »
If the trunks are all the same approximate size, it will never make a real successful forest.

If I were you, I would set the nozzle on my hose to the "power wash" setting, and blast away at the roots.  Once the soil is ALL gone, it will be easier to untangle with minimum damage. 

In zone 8, however, I'm not sure I'd do anything at this time of year.  Zone 8 covers a number of states and many varied climates.  Can you give details?
 

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Re: trident forest thoughts
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2015, 11:03 AM »
If you stay above freezing all winter, or if you protect your trees by moving them to a shelter that stays above freezing, you can do repotting and root work in autumn and winter. Otherwise I would wait until spring. Just as new buds are swelling is an ideal time to repot. Before buds open.

For your 11 tree forest, Osoyoung's advice is good. One alternative is to separate the forest into 2 or 3 clumps of seedlings. Then purchase more seedlings that are distinctly larger. Grow the clumps for a year or two, training as suggested. Grow and train the individual trees you picked up for a year or two. Then assemble the forest with the largest tree as your focal point and work in the other additional trees to get the variation in size needed to give better perspective to your forest. Remember, not only do you want the trunks to be different sizes, you also want the distances between trees to both lend perspective to the planting (up front trees are further apart, back trees are much closer together) and also want irregular spacing so it looks natural, not like a farmer planting rows.

Fun, long term project. You might also need a bigger shallow pot. Do assemble the trees before they get too big, because as Osoyoung said, it is difficult to squeeze together healthy root systems of trees raised individually. Oh, and try to end up with an odd number of trees if you can, or an odd number of visual elements if you do end up with an even number of trees. Once you are over 10 trees, this is not a big deal, but odd numbers make the focal point easier for the eye to find.