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DorianJF

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Re: Tree identification
« Reply #30 on: February 04, 2015, 10:52 AM »
Ok.  So this has been in my mind on how to proceed and I decided to just go ahead and at least do something.

Now remember my ultimate thought is that if I mess this up, then I can cut off the branches as marked in yellow and only sit with the centre one as discussed.

So I have been reading up on how to raffia branches properly and I came across someone suggesting electrical tape and how well it works and I decided to give it a shot.  First you wrap the electrical tape with the sticky side showing to the outside so that it does not stick to the branch.  Then you wrap it a few times again but with the sticky side down.  I must admit that this was way easier then using Raffia.

I used the branch splitter and then wrapped it up.  After wiring, I put the bend in
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Re: Tree identification
« Reply #31 on: February 04, 2015, 11:07 AM »
I then cut off most of the branches.  I am hoping that it will start to grow lower down.  The stump that is left at the top can be used to either "jin" or I will cut it off.

The other branches on the right hand side, I have left for now.

Now....

Your thoughts.
 

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Re: Tree identification
« Reply #32 on: February 04, 2015, 11:14 AM »
Or another option is the one below

Cut off the left hand branch that I have just bent and then start working on shortening the 2 right hand side branches (back budding) and then creating an umbrella style tree.

More thoughts?
 

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Re: Tree identification
« Reply #33 on: February 05, 2015, 10:15 AM »
I  like the tree.That branch looks alot better. I'm with you guys  Umbrella style will look good on the tree. How is the tree doing . I look forward to an update.

 

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Re: Tree identification
« Reply #34 on: February 09, 2015, 06:20 AM »
The tree is doing great.  The lovely thing about a Silverberry is that it back buds like crazy.

I definitely think that I have to remove the branch that I bent and then cut the crown further down and get it to back bud lower down.

So I did some trimming and will now leave it alone and see how it goes.

Ultimately there is the fall back option that was suggested right in the beginning and that is to cut off all the long branches and only leave the little one is the front.  But that is the fall back option.
 

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Re: Tree identification
« Reply #35 on: February 09, 2015, 08:12 AM »
In my opinion, I like it much better without the raffia covered branch.  It will always look out of place on the rest of the tree.  Without it, you have a lovely silhouette to start with. 
 

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Re: Tree identification
« Reply #36 on: February 09, 2015, 08:21 AM »
Thanks so much Judy.  I definitely agree. I am going to leave it for now and see what it does till spring and then cut it and maybe Jin the branch.
 

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Re: Tree identification
« Reply #37 on: February 12, 2015, 04:39 AM »
Dorian....

Move forward!    Fall back ;)

Sorce

P.s.  I completely appreciate your hesitation.
 

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Re: Tree identification
« Reply #38 on: February 12, 2015, 06:37 AM »
Sorce

I watched one of Bjorn's videos on the Bonsai art in Japan and I watch him cut off a branch off a JBP.  By just watching him cutting it off my heart was in my throat and I was feeling ill.  I kept on thinking that the branch had been growing for years and snip its gone.

The final result was stunning and obviously the branch had to go.

But when it comes to me it is always, yes....  No.....  Maybe....  Yes.... mmmmmm... leave it....  Cut it off......

I think you get my meaning. ;D ;D ;D
 

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Re: Tree identification
« Reply #39 on: February 22, 2015, 02:31 PM »
I think I've posted this here to you already.!

But it's so good I'll just post it again!

There's about 6-9 videos from Belgrade. Watch all!


This really gave me the guts to chop stuff.

We (newbies) love to snip little stuff all the time, but fear the right big moves!

A path to see excellence must be set.

Sorce
 

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Re: Tree identification
« Reply #40 on: February 23, 2015, 02:02 AM »
Thanks so much for the link

Will definitely have a look at it.

Went to my first Bonsai club meeting over the weekend and I took along a Baobab and a Natal ficus and the guys went to town.

It was just cut, cut, cut.  So maybe I need to man up and try it   ;D
 

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Re: Tree identification
« Reply #41 on: February 23, 2015, 02:39 AM »
Or another option is the one below

Cut off the left hand branch that I have just bent and then start working on shortening the 2 right hand side branches (back budding) and then creating an umbrella style tree.

More thoughts?


I think this is the best option

kind regards
Herman
 

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Re: Tree identification
« Reply #42 on: February 23, 2015, 03:19 AM »
Definitely the right choice.

The silver berry is back budding again like crazy so I do not think I will have any problems with shortening the 2 branches on the right hand side to bring them level with the pad on the front.

The bent branch is still growing but I think I will cut off all the leaves and buds to push the energy to the other side of the tree.

Come spring I will repot it and move it so that the new front comes into play.
 

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Re: Tree identification
« Reply #43 on: April 08, 2015, 07:35 AM »
So all is still going well with this Bonsai.

With winter around the corner I am not doing any work on it for now and am leaving it till spring when I will do a hard cut on the 2 right hand side branches to get them to grow out level with the front pad.

But I was wondering if anyone could advise if the tree grows well from cuttings.

When I do the hard cut back, I thought of using the cuttings to maybe try a Mame or Shohin
 

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Re: Tree identification
« Reply #44 on: May 05, 2015, 12:50 PM »
I think it is safe to assume Elaeagnus can be propagated by cuttings, so go for it. Take older wood cuttings in late summer or autumn, semi-hardwood cuttings in early summer, and see what roots best. You can try with or without hormones or other special treatment. If you only need a few cuttings to root, take a bunch, and if one out of 10 root, you are ahead, go for it.