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Steven
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« on: April 22, 2013, 12:12 PM »

I am needing some help on amount of sun to give my trees. Unfortunately I live in a apartment type duplex and do not have my own yard to place them where I'd like. My front door faces south and our apartment is on the west end so the west end faces the road. I was told by the owners I could keep them on the north side of our apartment and that is where they are presently. Well, they are not getting much sun if none. The only time any amount of sun reaches back there is after 5:30 pm. Sunlight does not shine on all of them. Those closest to the northwest corner of the apartment get the most sun. My trees have been through hell the past 2 years and these I decided to keep up here(the rest went back south) I don't want to lose. I have no one around here, that I can trust, that has the property to allow them to reside. I'm all out of options. Any help, tips, advice would be greatly appreciated. Might try and get pics of the area to help give you an idea. Thanks!
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« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2013, 01:26 PM »

What species do you have? There are a lot more variables to growing indoors than just light. List your species and perhaps others can help. I have grown several things indoors with supplemental lighting etc. Also I once used university greenhouses with metal halide lights growing corn experiments in the dead of winter. My experience is from growing different bonsai material in apartments/dorm rooms when I was in college. It sucks. I am sorry, but unless you are going to fork over a decent amount of cash to get the proper light setup and humidity etc. then it just isnt going to work. And all of this advice is for tropicals and subtropicals. If you mean to keep temperate species indoors then forget about it.

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« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2013, 01:40 PM »

I interpreted Steven's post differently.  It seems he's trying to find a spot outside to keep his trees.
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Steven
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« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2013, 03:26 PM »

No trops. All my trees our outdoors. I have Japanese maples(different varieties), beech(different varieties), ginkgo, junipers(different varieties), pines(different varieties), hemlock(different varieties), azaleas(different varieties), wisteria, elm, bald cypress, coast redwood to name a few.
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« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2013, 03:52 PM »

First pic is of the west side of the apartment. Was out by the road to get the best shot. Pic #2 is where the sun was at 335pm on the northwest corner. The last 2 pics show my trees up against the north side of the apartment.
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« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2013, 04:28 PM »

Ah, my bad, you are right he does have them outside! Can you get them away from the building a bit? Looks like they will be in perpetual shade that close to the building.  I would assume your maples are going to be ok. That pine might become lanky/not bud strongly.
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« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2013, 05:27 PM »

With them being in this much shade they will get long and lanky(bad for bonsai design) and weaken them considerably. In one of the pics you can see a pipe sticking up out of the ground. If you run parallel with the back of the apartment at that pipe that is where the apartment property ends. Now, when the owners come to mow they use this small grass "pathway" to go and mow between the 3 duplexes. I can ask them if I can move them to that area but not getting any hopes up. Overall they are nice people but it seems nothing can be on the grass. They don't want to have to mow around anything or have to move anything. And if the question is pondering in anyones mind this place was not my choosing. I wanted to keep looking. Wife thought otherwise. Happy wife, happy life...at least some parts lol. So we're here for at least a year. Don't know if my trees can take another year of hell.
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Steven
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« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2013, 06:35 PM »

First pic was taken at 530pm and second pic taken at 630pm
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« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2013, 09:16 PM »

How about on the sidewalk in pic #1?  The owners wouldn't hav to move anything to mow.

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Steven
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« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2013, 09:45 PM »

That is a possible option if they will allow me to. Now the west side has its obstacles. Across the road is a farm field for a good 1/4 mile with the owners house, barns and silos 300 yards or so away. So wind coming out of the southwest, west and northwest there is nothing to break it up. So even 20-25 mph winds are strong and uninterrupted. I would have to come up with something to keep trees from being blown off or over. They would get hit with sunlight starting midday during the hot summer days. Which can be a problem if I can't water when they need it. The owner did say he could put in a outdoor spigot, since we pay for all utilities, when I asked him when we signed the lease. Right now I have to hook up a hose to the kitchen faucet and run the hose out the window. I know most of this I need to discuss with the owners. Was just wanting to know how much sun, or how little is more correct, they would need to thrive. In a way I feel my trees are the red-headed step child or stray cat or dog no one wants around.
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« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2013, 08:58 AM »

Bonsai4me.com should provide info on siting the various trees in the "Species Guide." You will definitely need to find a site with morning sun and afternoon sun for your maples, beech and a few others on your list.

You have to adjust for the trees as far as cultural conditions, they are not going to adjust to radically different conditions.

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Steven
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« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2013, 10:28 AM »

Thanks.
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« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2013, 09:39 PM »

Well, after talking with the landlords I can place some of my trees out on the walkway. As long as I don't take up the whole walkway and it does not look "tacky" or "trashy". So now I get to decide which ones to move. No brainer there lol.
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« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2013, 10:46 PM »

This is like so foreign to me  Huh?  Huh?. If I put my trees in the walkway here in Florida, my trees would walkAway  Cry .

Please be careful Steven. I actually had someone steal a big japanese maple from me one time. I found out who it was. They thought they were stealing a "marijuana plant"  :Smiley .... DOH!
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« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2013, 10:57 PM »

I can see that. Some people just do not know the difference. Here in Haubstadt it is a small german catholic town. I can say probably 90% or more don't even know what bonsai is let alone why someone would keep trees in containers. Police cruise by quite often so I can say I don't have anything to worry. Plus not many of my trees are worth much currently to steal. But, yes, you never know. There is always that one idiot.
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