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wraenking

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Started as a joke, but it's getting big!
« on: August 10, 2017, 07:21 AM »
Hey guys. I know nothing about the art of the bonsai but would like to learn to see if I can one day give this beautiful tree to my wife as a gift.  Someone at work had bought a bonsai tree and I joked that I could grow one from seeds. So I bought 10 Albizia Julibtissin silk pink seeds from Amazon about 1 1/2 to 2 years ago and it has actually grown quite well even though it is on my office. I am not sure if I waited to long to start the process to prime and structure the tree.  Below is a pic.  I have purchased a book and a few tools but wanted some insight from some experts!  Is it too late?

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Re: Started as a joke, but it's getting big!
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2017, 10:48 AM »
I know nothing about Albizia, but that tree looks like its in need of light.  If you can find a place with bright shade it'd benefit.  (If its been inside for 2 years then taking it into the sun straight-away will likely cause its leaves to burn and further weaken it.)
 

wraenking

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Re: Started as a joke, but it's getting big!
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2017, 03:06 PM »
I know nothing about Albizia, but that tree looks like its in need of light.  If you can find a place with bright shade it'd benefit.  (If its been inside for 2 years then taking it into the sun straight-away will likely cause its leaves to burn and further weaken it.)
Thanks for the response. Can I ask why you say it is in need of light?  Or how you can tell.  The leaves always look beautiful and the lighter color is a new branch that just came in. Unfortunately I just moved to a different office with no window.

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Re: Started as a joke, but it's getting big!
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2017, 08:03 PM »
I know nothing about Albizia, but that tree looks like its in need of light.  If you can find a place with bright shade it'd benefit.  (If its been inside for 2 years then taking it into the sun straight-away will likely cause its leaves to burn and further weaken it.)
Thanks for the response. Can I ask why you say it is in need of light?  Or how you can tell.  The leaves always look beautiful and the lighter color is a new branch that just came in. Unfortunately I just moved to a different office with no window.

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It seems thin and has few branches.


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Re: Started as a joke, but it's getting big!
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2017, 04:21 PM »
All plants need light to produce food. This seedling is too small to do anything with for several years. I would have thought that it needs to be outside to get the conditions for optimum growing and health. It needs a bigger pot as well. Fertiliser with nitrogen would also be a good idea. Growing a plant from seed to be able to train into what might become a bonsai will take 15 to 20 years, the plant you have may or may not be suitable for bonsai.
 

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Re: Started as a joke, but it's getting big!
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2017, 10:24 PM »
Albizia Julli needs full sun. Mine are very difficult. They lose branches soo easily .  Ive had trouble designing my Jullies cause of die back. i recommend you put it in the ground Let it get strong and do trunk chops and root prunes and back to the ground. An upside is that the leaves  reduce dramatically  . Ive gotten them down to 3"by 1 1/2" .
 

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Re: Started as a joke, but it's getting big!
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2017, 01:24 PM »
I appreciate all of the feedback. Within the last week i started getting new growth on the lower portion of the trunk. It is the first time it has ever happened. I will read up on how to chop the top and how to prune the roots.  I will also get a larger pot. (I assumed you would want a smaller pot if trying to grow bonsai). Any other pointers would be appreciated. I cannot plant it outside and would like to try to keep it in my office. Pic below of new growth



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Re: Started as a joke, but it's getting big!
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2017, 05:23 PM »
Albizia can work as bonsai, Spongeman was giving you the ''straight poop'', it is not an ''easy'' tree to do well because it needs full sun and does indeed drop branches easily. Spongeman has a number of Albizia bonsai, he is sharing hands on experience.

 It is possible to grow a great many trees under lights, but trees that need full sun are difficult. Visit your local ''Brew & Grow'', or Hydroponics shop to see grow light systems in operation. You can then order on line once you know what light system you want. A tree that needs full sun wants as much light as a marijuana crop or a tomato plant. Grow shops will often use pepper plants as a stand in for marijuana as they need about the same light.

Your plant is a young seedling, as such can get by on slightly lower light, but will eventually get weaker and weaker and die if it does not get sufficient sunlight. As they age they need more light.

I suggest you try again with different species. that require shade, or partial sun, rather than a species that needs full sun.

For shade, indoors, probably the most adaptable is Ficus. Also Serissa, Bryna, and maybe a few others. Meehan's Miniatures has starter material at modest prices. Check for their indoor shade listings.
 

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Re: Started as a joke, but it's getting big!
« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2017, 12:18 PM »
Great input. Thanks so much!

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