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General Category => General Bonsai Discussion => Topic started by: Anthony on July 08, 2014, 07:50 AM

Title: Something for the group
Post by: Anthony on July 08, 2014, 07:50 AM
Okay Folks,

the problem is we grow mostly local tropicals, and if it does not resemble something that you grow, the work is mostly lost in the translation. Still I will try with this - Fustic -Chlorophora tinctoria - [ Maclura tinctoria - older name ?]

Shown earlier this year on the IBC and then later sent to Owen Reich for a looksee.
So far, not all of the kinks have been worked out, but the branchlet density is excellent. Almost zelkova, but there are thorns.

It is very responsive the dry air, loses all the leaves and goes into a semi- dormant mode.
Healing ability is good, but requires long branch extensions, preferably in the open ground.
Loves the sun and leaves reduce very well.

The mature tree's natural shape is a besom [ broom ]
Grows at the high tide zone and in the hills, so it is salt tolerant and cooler air adaptable.

Soil is our simple mix of crushed sifted red brick, builder's gravel [ silica ] and compost - particles for inorganic 3 to 5 mm, freely draining and moisture retentive.
We have several for tests, as I mentioned before not all of the kinks have been worked out.
The heartwood is very hard and thus far apparently poisonous to insects, also a bright yellow [ the dye ]
Nothing else to show until a few months from now,lots of tests however.
Good Morning
Title: Re: Something for the group
Post by: bwaynef on July 08, 2014, 09:03 AM
With the chop on that first one, I'd probably cover the wound with cut paste.  Have you tried that?

(Also, on the first one, your lowest branch and 2nd lowest branch are at odds with regard to their angles.)
Title: Re: Something for the group
Post by: Owen Reich on July 08, 2014, 05:11 PM
Defoliation as much as 4 times a year possible and long runners do not seem to thicken the base.  Met some growers of it in Florida and Maryland.  My personal experience was limited due to travel schedule.  They are definitely tough as nails though. 

Also due to travel schedule, I'm going to find homes for 75% of my rough stock and established bonsai starting Friday.  Anyone coming to Nashville can PM me. Mostly deciduous trees; many are rare cultivars or common straight species with potential.

Title: Re: Something for the group
Post by: Sorce on July 08, 2014, 08:52 PM
2 looks nice. A real charmer in a couple years.

1 the low branches don't bother me. Ive noted trees like that.

  The bulge at the top is rough though. Any thought of whackin those two right branches, and spinnin 180 for a new front?

Thank you.

Title: Re: Something for the group
Post by: Anthony on July 09, 2014, 08:48 AM
Thank you, Bwaynef, Owen and Sorce,

for taking the time to look and respond. I add a few more images and let you know that both plants are over 10 years of age.
The larger is a cut down and the smaller was a seedling found I believe on the property in Mayaro, East Coast.

No need for defoliation, happens naturally with our sun.

Anyhow, the smaller one, was accidentally dried out, and in the photos you can see the damaged areas. Repairs to be done.

If you realise that collectively we have been growing Bonsai for 35 and 26 years or so, then maybe you can understand the philosophy.
In the first 15 to 20 years, fairly refined Bonsai were obtained from Tamarind and Gmelinas, and the question was what next after the design matures - cutting back and starting over or re-designing anew?

Instead we opted for growing from seed and allowing the plant to just mature at it's own rate.
So though there are trees in the growing troughs, others are just allowed to grow branches and branchlets, letting the trunk thicken at it's own rate.
We have some 40 years to go again as our grandparents died in their 90's and 100's.
No need to rush.

Additionally, some trees only thicken in the ground [ Fukien tea or Sageretia t, for example ] whereas a Tamarind with extensions will thicken in a bonsai pot.
Good Day
Title: Re: Something for the group
Post by: Anthony on July 09, 2014, 08:49 AM
2 more

Good Morning