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JDNeessen

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Scorched Dawn Redwood
« on: June 02, 2014, 11:50 PM »
So, last week it was in the 70s and rainy here in Albuquerque and this week it is in the high 90s all week.  Even with watering twice a day and keeping the tree in the shade, my dawn redwood forest looks like it was burned to death. The needles just crinkled off.  Two of the trees in the forest are fine, but the others just look like they are done for.  It happened relatively quickly.  I was wondering if anyone has had this happen and resurrected the trees?  I know that redwoods can be fairly resilient, but I'm worried that the quick heat up here fried these guys.  The two trees that are fine are older and have been in training for a while.  This heat may have done these other guys in. 

Going forward, maybe this is a tree that comes in doors at the end of may and goes back outside in September to avoid the summer heat. 

Any suggestions would be appreciated.   :-\
 

JDNeessen

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Re: Scorched Dawn Redwood
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2014, 09:49 AM »
Does silence mean they're dead? I guess so.  
 

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Re: Scorched Dawn Redwood
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2014, 09:52 AM »
I would imagine that you'll just have to wait and hope, and put the trees in the best conditions possible for recovery. 
Most of us don't live in such a climate as you do, so it's difficult to try to diagnose your trees, especially without seeing them.  Lack of response doesn't mean we don't care.... :)
 

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Re: Scorched Dawn Redwood
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2014, 01:47 PM »
I read online somewhere (sorry, no source), that dawn redwoods have a hard time recovering from dessication. They like a lot of moisture in the air as well as in the soil.
 

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Re: Scorched Dawn Redwood
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2014, 05:06 PM »
If they survive - a deeper pot and wetter mix might be advisable  ???
 

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Re: Scorched Dawn Redwood
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2014, 10:51 AM »
I had the same problem. I had 2 from my forest planting bud out and then fizzle before completely extending. The mix I use is good for moisture retention and it's kept on the back of my bench where it gets afternoon shade. I just transfered from the training pots to the forest pot this spring, and it was a harsh winter. One was an older tree and one I just got last year.
 

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Re: Scorched Dawn Redwood
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2014, 10:14 AM »
Since it has been so hot lately, I decided to bring it into my dining room for a bit so that the temperature could be more consistent.  Once it cools off later this summer, I'll bring it back outdoors.  The smaller trees all have tiny buds forming, but the largest tree may be a goner.   :'(

I'll have to make a new pot this summer for it that is deeper.  That is a good idea.  Hopefully it will bounce back. 
 

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Re: Scorched Dawn Redwood
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2014, 11:00 AM »
You'll probably kill it in your dining room...the trees that are obviously growing won't get enough light and it may actually be drier in your house then outside.  They really need to be outside...perhaps slip pot now into a larger pot and keep in the shade.  If they survive, great.  If they don't, this may be a lesson learned.  Years ago, I stopped taking extreme measures trying to keep species of trees alive that weren't suited for my particular climate...it's a lot of work for minimal to no gain.  Grow what does well where you live.  You'll be happier in the long run.  Good luck.
 

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Re: Scorched Dawn Redwood
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2014, 02:47 AM »
I only have one Dawn Redwood and I live in the bay area California so no comparison in locations. I have my tree where it gets morning sun to about noon then shade most of the day. I only water one time a day and fertilize every two weeks. Mine grows like a weed here.  I did not see anything about how much sun you give your tree tree but maybe I just missed that part.
 

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Re: Scorched Dawn Redwood
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2014, 09:52 AM »
I just had the same thing happen to me last 2 dys.  So strange as I've never had a problem before having it in full sun in Tx, Ca or here in Chicago.  Just makes no sense...
 

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Re: Scorched Dawn Redwood
« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2014, 09:54 AM »
The sunlight they are getting in my dining room is similar to the area I had them outside without the intensity of the temperature here in the high desert (the tree was just outside of my dining room on the same wall) and I've got a humidifier running near the plants to help.  It has been in the high 90s (yesterday was 100) and the humidity outside today will be a wapping 27%.  I'll probably bring them back out in a week or so.  Our monsoon season should be starting soon and that will help with overall humidity outside.

I'm happy to say that 4 of the 5 trees I thought were goners have all budded out again and are starting to push out new leaves.  It's been inside for just about 2 weeks, the other trees in the forest are happy and continuing to push out new growth.

I've had these trees for 5 years and started them when I was back in Boston, so I'll continue to try to keep them alive.  This is just my second summer here and I'm still getting used to the weather myself.  There are several folks in my bonsai club here that grow dawn redwoods so I know it can be done.  I will get a larger pot and submerge this pot into it to help create some more humidity around the roots for the rest of the season until I can make a larger pot for this planting.   
 

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Re: Scorched Dawn Redwood
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2014, 09:50 AM »
That's awesome! Glad it has recovered.
 

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Re: Scorched Dawn Redwood
« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2014, 01:16 PM »
I've had mine the longest ever, 20+ yrs.  I'm afraid it's dead.  I'm pretty upset as I had it so long...and with no reason this happened.  Log one up to....?? 
 

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Re: Scorched Dawn Redwood
« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2014, 05:40 AM »
The Winter of 2014.  ;)

Sorry to hear that Chris.  >:(
 

Chrisl

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Re: Scorched Dawn Redwood
« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2014, 10:47 AM »
Thanks Sorce.  It's been a bad spring where I lost all 3 huge yews I collected last yr due to the winter, I lost (fort., my cheapest PP) a Ponderosa P. that had been SUPER healthy for yrs, but I removed the remaining 50% duff, and it too has died.  I should've asked Ryan about proper duff removal timing in our potting session in March.  Will ask in 2 wks when I head back up.  A lot of lessons learned this yr.  But strangely nice, is every tree so far has been healthy...not one disease so far this yr.  A big change from last yr. that I contribute to all not being stressed. 

Ah 'Bonsai'...a never ending learning experience (which makes it fun and challenging)