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Title: Redwood Display-Interesting
Post by: Yenling83 on February 04, 2013, 07:53 PM
This picture is from the site, artofdaiza.com.   I'm curious to hear what you think of the display-what do you like and dislike? 
Title: Re: Redwood Display-Interesting
Post by: Jason E on February 04, 2013, 08:14 PM
I like the thick slab and the bamboo under companion combo, the framed pic doesn't work for me. too low, formal?  Just doesn't seem to harmonize w/ the other components to me.
no expert, just my initial thoughts looking at the display.
Interested to hear others thoughts.
jason
Title: Re: Redwood Display-Interesting
Post by: bwaynef on February 04, 2013, 11:52 PM
I don't care for the slab.  It seems bulky and possibly redundant.  I find that it competes for interest w/ the tree it sits under.  

The framed picture is done so in a very overstated manner.  Framed and (double-)matted ...in high gloss?  It draws the focus away from the rest of the scene.  I can't really make out the details of the picture, but it seems too busy.  It may sound contradictory, but a panorama from within that picture stretching 75+% across the background (behind all of the other elements) would remove some of the clutter from the image while maintaining its essence and really draw the composition together as a whole.

The accent has appropriate movement for the display, but since I'm not familiar enough with where these trees grow, I'm not sure if it evokes the correct feeling, though I don't remember anything similar in my hike through part of Yosemite.

The display could do w/o the NatGeo, though.
Title: Re: Redwood Display-Interesting
Post by: Charles Willis on February 05, 2013, 01:24 PM
Am I the only one that can't view the enlarged picture? I've tried using Safari, Firefox, and Chrome on OS X Mountain Lion. Clicking the thumbnail just brings up a black box.
Title: Re: Redwood Display-Interesting
Post by: 0soyoung on February 05, 2013, 01:36 PM
Am I the only one that can't view the enlarged picture?

Yes.
Title: Re: Redwood Display-Interesting
Post by: John Romano on February 05, 2013, 03:45 PM
I can't see it either though I haven't tried other browsers other than Safari on a Mac.
Title: Re: Redwood Display-Interesting
Post by: Jay on February 05, 2013, 07:54 PM
I can't view it either on my IPad. I've tried safari and google Crome.
J
Title: Re: Redwood Display-Interesting
Post by: bwaynef on February 05, 2013, 08:23 PM
Can you see this?
Title: Re: Redwood Display-Interesting
Post by: Charles Willis on February 05, 2013, 09:41 PM
I can see it now. Thank you.

I like the tree, but it seems like the pot could be a little wider and more shallow. I'm still very new to all of this, so maybe I'm off the mark.
Title: Re: Redwood Display-Interesting
Post by: Don Dunn on February 05, 2013, 09:51 PM
Now it's working again,  yesterday I got the large  picture but today I just got a black screen. Now it comes in loud and clear.
 As far as the display goes, I like the slab with the Redwood tree  but I  think the picture does not really work. I can't tell what the small plant is but I think a woodland type plant would suit it well, something like a fern.
Title: Re: Redwood Display-Interesting
Post by: Dirk on February 06, 2013, 12:32 AM
I do like thepicture and I can feel what one is trying to express: the roughness of the landscape
that this tree used to be in. Except, the tree doesn't quite match the picture. It doesn't show its
natural habitat, if that is what is implied.
Title: Re: Redwood Display-Interesting
Post by: Don Dunn on February 06, 2013, 02:36 AM
I do like the picture Yosemite Valley and Half Dome. Maybe it's an Ansel Adams. The frame is to fancy and the picture to large so it distracts from the tree. I also don't like the fact that it is black and white. To much of a contrast with the tree. So, now I'm an art critic?  LOL ::)
Title: Re: Redwood Display-Interesting
Post by: mlogan37 on February 14, 2013, 09:39 AM
My impression is that the picture is overpowering.  It is a great picture but it bocomes the main focal point of the composition.  It draws my eye to the middle of the table which is vacant.  I think the slab, pot, tree combo is a little off.  Maybe if the slab were thinner and the pot a little sturdier.  For some reason it just feels unbalanced.  I like the companion plant.  I second the losing of the National Geographic magazines.  The picture and the tree do not seem to go together, but maybe if they got a larger print and cut it into a more vertical crop (scroll like) and moved it so the tree and the picture werent competing for the same space it would work better.  But hey what the hell do I know.  Really dig the tree though.
Title: Re: Redwood Display-Interesting
Post by: Judy on February 14, 2013, 10:39 AM
For me, part of the problem is that there is too much happening in one small space.  Perhaps if the display area was larger, with more negative space between the tree and the picture, it would be better.  But the frame is not good for the photograph, it does not meld with the overall feeling that I think is trying to be stated.   No frame and more space, then maybe...
Title: Re: Redwood Display-Interesting
Post by: augustine on February 14, 2013, 12:11 PM
The picture of Yosemite is too "busy" for the display however the story being told clear. The accent tree is on the same (horizontal) line as the tree (not off the center line). The wooden display slab is too powerful and draws the eye away from the tree. The bamboo mat under the accent doesn't fit with the display.

Rather than the Asian aesthetic of "less is more" this shows that sometimes "more is less."

AND - what is the deal with the National Geographic magazine?

Thanks - I enjoyed seeing the beautiful tree.

Best,

Augustine
central MD 7a
Title: Re: Redwood Display-Interesting
Post by: Leo in NE Illinois on February 16, 2013, 11:38 AM
redwood (coast redwood), national geographic article on coast redwoods, and an Ansel Adams photo of Yosemite, which is sequoia, different species and habitat. The photo doesn't belong with the tree.

The magazine doesn't work for me either.

The display space is too small, the burl needs to be thinner and larger. It looks like the pot is bigger than the burl, over hanging it in spots.

This display points out my frustration with attempting to do displays myself. I have a bunch of stands, and things, but really have a hard time matching them to the tree that is going to be displayed, today. Mixing and matching is not my strength. Once done I can see what's wrong, but often I just don't have the depth of inventory of stands I need to go with my pots, I am often stuck just shoving what I have under the tree, whether it is right or not.
Title: Re: Redwood Display-Interesting
Post by: cbobgo on February 16, 2013, 06:25 PM
The slab seems a little too small to me - at least as far as width.  I like slabs a little thinner as well.

I also think a picture of Yosemite is prob not a good match for a coast redwood.    An unframed/ un-matted picture might look better than this fancy framed one.

And I don't think the magazine looks good in a display.  Looks like someone left it there by accident.

- bob
Title: Redwood Display
Post by: Owen Reich on February 17, 2013, 12:44 AM
Long, reasonably deep rectangle or rock slab would nice on a thinner slab of burl wood.  Tree is excellent and current pot is not bad, but a bit too tight feeling.  The display is far too busy as the supporting tree has a complex branch structure and is also too big.  A "too-tiny" kusamono (perhaps some moss or something with short tiny flowers) would be better to accentuate the feeling of height to the main tree.  Maybe some short native fern?  The Nat Geo could be available, but perhaps on a table nearby or something.  The photo is too strong.  Maybe a simple curved line representing Bridal Veil Falls or an erratic line portraying a famous vista in Kings Canyon would be better (as a scroll or on the backdrop itself).  I'd vote for nothing; just a kusamono and main tree on a slab.  The rest is for your mind to fill in if following a minimalist approach. The fact that it's a Coastal Redwood is not as important to me as what species or tree and location it's representing is (like using a boxwood to represent a Live Oak).   But, the message of the display should be clear or at least suggestive without all the literal stuff. 

Again, love the main tree and the thoughts were there.  Good display elements are not super-easy to come by. You could get away from a more common display by using something like a really old compass on a wooden octagon or scale covered wagon.
Title: Re: Redwood Display
Post by: Marc on February 17, 2013, 08:03 AM
maybe you should ...SET IT ON THE GROUND & slowly back away
Title: Re: Redwood Display-Interesting
Post by: PaulH on February 17, 2013, 10:59 AM
I can understand the thought process that went into this... But I don't really like the result. The whole thing is a little too contrived and weakens the impact of an excellent tree.
As others have said, Yosemite and Coast redwoods don't go together and the complexity of the framed photo over powers the effect of the tree. I know that issue of N.G. and have the tri-fold photo of a redwood from it hanging in my office but I can't see how including in it helps the display. The slab and the pot are both too small for the tree.
 Did I say that it is an amazing tree?
Title: Re: Redwood Display
Post by: Owen Reich on February 17, 2013, 02:07 PM
maybe you should ...SET IT ON THE GROUND & slowly back away

Yes it is a bit frustrating  ;D
Title: Re: Redwood Display-Interesting
Post by: Yenling83 on February 21, 2013, 06:58 PM
I really like this tree, i'd love to have it in my collection.  I also give points to whoever created it for trying something differnt.  At first the fact that it was a coastal red, with a background in the Sierras really bothered me, but I really like Owen's comments about that which made me more okay with it.  The framed picture bugs me alot, but I hope more people will create scenes from the Sierras in the future.   

Title: Re: Redwood Display-Interesting
Post by: tmmason10 on February 23, 2013, 03:10 PM
I think there's definitely too much going on here. I like the tree on the slab, it would have been better by itself in my opinion.