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Title: Recent work
Post by: bwaynef on July 31, 2014, 04:26 PM
I forgot to take a from-the-top picture.  This is a tree I've been working on for about a year.  The first branch is a thread-graft.  The scars under the cut paste are healing remarkably well.  I suspect this one will have a pleasant silhouette pretty soon.

It looks better in person (which usually means it doesnt, right?).
Title: Re: Recent work
Post by: MatsuBonsai on July 31, 2014, 07:57 PM
Have you thought about a a wider, shallower pot in the near future, in order to work on the nebari?
Title: Re: Recent work
Post by: John Kirby on July 31, 2014, 08:01 PM
I have watched Ryan Neal give a number of demonstrations . One of the things I heard him say really resonated with me, that was how impressed he was of Mr. Kimura in his ability to style trees specifically for photography. That is, he would position branches and foliage in different spaces/planes for photography sessions then adjust for viewing in person. That is a highly developed eye .
Title: Re: Recent work
Post by: bwaynef on July 31, 2014, 08:10 PM
Have you thought about a a wider, shallower pot in the near future, in order to work on the nebari?

I'm almost certain thats in the cards for this one.  This one likely got its start either last August (when I posted several other Tridents that'd been chopped then-recently) or this spring.  The next step is to repot it and maybe even go ahead and place some root (thread-)grafts in a couple areas.  Did anything jump out at you?

Kirby, re: RN's comments about Kimura, he's probably dealing with a little more ramification than I have to work with on this one.  It's impressive/depressing to hear that sentiment though.
Title: Re: Recent work
Post by: bwaynef on December 17, 2014, 02:47 PM
Here's a few updates.
Title: Re: Recent work
Post by: Adair M on December 17, 2014, 06:16 PM
Wayne,

Is that the same wire that you put on last summer?

If so, it's time to take it off.

And cut back. Every branch on the tree should be cut back to a bud that's only one or two inches from the trunk. Except the apex. Let it run a little.

Yes, that means all that wood you grew would be cut off. Cut back to a pair of buds where they are growing up/down rather than side to side.

Next spring, when the buds pop, rub off the bottom bud. Rewire the top shoot down when it gets about 6 inches long. While the wood is soft. Let it stay wired on for a month to six weeks. Remove wire, defoliate, and cut back again. Back to the closest up/down bud on the trunk. Repeat this process several times over the summer. You could probably get 3 or 4 cycles. This process builds taper in your branches.

And, no, this is not in John Naka's books.

Letting the apex runs little helps heal the chop scars.
Title: Re: Recent work
Post by: bwaynef on December 17, 2014, 08:04 PM
No, this wire went on in the past week or so.  I know it needs to be whacked back, but I thought early spring (about repotting time) would be the appropriate time for that.  No?
Title: Re: Recent work
Post by: Adair M on December 18, 2014, 01:53 AM
No, that's when the sap is rising.

Better to cut back now. Use cut paste.
Title: Re: Recent work
Post by: SHIMA1 on December 18, 2014, 03:11 AM
No, that's when the sap is rising.

Better to cut back now. Use cut paste.

In Issue # 130, Sept/Oct pg 24 of Bonsai focus is a good article on this subject.

When the leaves turn red
You can go ahead
   and cut.
Title: Re: Recent work
Post by: Sorce on December 18, 2014, 04:06 AM
I would only cut back the top 5 branches.

You have close nodes on the low ones to cut back to later.

Best let them thicken another season or 2 IMO.

Nice trunk.

Sorce
Title: Re: Recent work
Post by: Adair M on December 18, 2014, 08:31 AM
Wayne, you could take this tree to the Boon workshop, too.