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Yenling83

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Poo Ball holders vs No Poo Ball holders?
« on: October 12, 2012, 06:23 PM »
I've never used these before-but may try them.  If you've used them before how did you like them and would you recommend them?  I'm wondering if they provide the same amount of nutrients to the tree, but make less clean up of the top soil? Or when using these should you add more cakes to get the same results?  Thanks
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Re: Poo Ball holders vs No Poo Ball holders?
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2012, 06:57 PM »
I have not used them to hold "poo balls" but they make awesome little training pots for mame sized trees using a double pot technique.

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Re: Poo Ball holders vs No Poo Ball holders?
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2012, 08:20 PM »
I used them to hold Osmocote so I could remove it as necessary.  Same idea ...kinda.  I doubt they provide any security from critters.  And if you've already got your poo in a ball, they might be superfluous.
 

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Re: Poo Ball holders vs No Poo Ball holders?
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2012, 09:31 PM »
I've been using butter tubs and cream cheese tubs with holes drilled, to hold organic fert's. They seem to be working great for me and no mess with making cakes (bot i've only tried them one season so far). - I got the idea from someone on another thread.
 

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Re: Poo Ball holders vs No Poo Ball holders?
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2012, 08:05 AM »
I do not use them, but use a "C" shaped piece of wire to hold poo balls to the media surface.  the small holders in the pic work on shohin.  You can also put the poo balls (especially BioGold) into tea bags and the mess is decreased.  Some of our clients use them.  Fly maggots often speed up breakdown of cakes and the holders may keep flys from getting involved but not sure about the fly thing; just a thought.
 

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Re: Poo Ball holders vs No Poo Ball holders?
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2012, 04:37 PM »
There are little tiny cloth sacs on the market available, I think there called tea bags, They usualy have a little drawsting to close them. I like those better, because as you water, more of the fertilizer comes in contact with soil throgh the sac. It still contains the "mess", but the contents inside break down faster and you often find roots growing under the sac.
 I have used the baskets, but only part of the "poo ball" touches the soil, and the rest sits in the air and dries out. Also, I have noticed that after a short time, the little plastic clasp on those along with the whole lid gets brittle and the whole thing needs to be replaced. Especialy if it gets alot of sun.
 I have been told not to disturb the fert, cakes as bacteria are growing, helping it to break down. The sac realy lets process happen better it seems.
 

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Re: Poo Ball holders vs No Poo Ball holders?
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2012, 02:34 PM »
I do not use them, but use a "C" shaped piece of wire to hold poo balls to the media surface.  the small holders in the pic work on shohin.  You can also put the poo balls (especially BioGold) into tea bags and the mess is decreased.  Some of our clients use them.  Fly maggots often speed up breakdown of cakes and the holders may keep flys from getting involved but not sure about the fly thing; just a thought.

So next question would be how fast is ideal for these cakes to break down?  It would seem the faster they break down the more nutrients the tree gets.  I guess it really just does not matter all that much. 
 

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Re: Poo Ball holders vs No Poo Ball holders?
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2012, 05:41 PM »
I've been told that the more of the white mold that they have on them, the faster they break down and the more nutrients they release, so I try to keep mine damp with over head sprinklers.

I have noticed that in periods of prolonged days of rain the yeast-like smell is more apparent so that would suggests a faster breakdown.

I tried cakes, but the teabags keep a bit more moisture in and the fermenting going. I've never tried the little cages.