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Re: Owen Reich workshop
« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2011, 08:02 AM »
I would grow the first branch out 3 or 4 feet, then place it on a pedestal that you would have to walk under, with a little dangly sign (written with kanji and english) "Welcome to my Banzai Garden, whiskey around the corner".

You like? ::)

Juan
 

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Re: Owen Reich workshop
« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2011, 08:21 AM »
Matsu,

Long term on the 5 needle pine... It appears to be one of the grafts on JBP stock.  As we all know the black pine trunk fattens considerably faster than the white pine trunk.  Right now, the JBP/white pine transition is quite attractive and in proportion.  But I have seen some where the black pine stock really bulges out and white pine trunk just sticks out of the "ball" of black pine.

How can you prevent that?  Can you prevent that?

The reason I ask, I have a white pine grafted on JBP, and right now, the graft union is pleasing and nothing is out of proportion.  I'd like to keep it that way. 


 

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Re: Owen Reich workshop
« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2011, 10:46 PM »
I have
 

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Re: Owen Reich workshop
« Reply #18 on: December 16, 2011, 12:34 AM »
Owen,

Did you do anything special to keep the two trunk materials in proportion, or did it just happen naturally?
 

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Re: Owen Reich workshop
« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2011, 05:20 AM »
Grow slow.
 

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Re: Owen Reich workshop
« Reply #20 on: December 19, 2011, 06:55 PM »
This will hopefully address all posts on "page 2": 

I feel that a Bourbon sign would be more appropriate  ;)

As for the graft union between species this particular tree has an excellent union and do not forsee any graft incompatibility or size issues.  As I believe Juan alluded to, not pushing the tree with heavy fertilizer and oversized growing container will assist in prevention of swelling at the graft union.  One day in the next decade or two, it will be difficult to differentiate between the black and white pine bark. 

I personally prefer white pine on their own roots as the size, color, and flexibility of the needles is better.  I have been jaded a bit by bonsai in Japan as I see very old Goyomatsu with soft needles and ancient bark.  Something to strive for here in America and I've seen more and more projects popping up lately; there are many more i'm not aware of I'm sure.

The last item to clarify is the styling discrepancy between the lowest branch and the rest of the tree.  I stlyed the lowest branch in a layered fashion we use on more refined white pines while a basic wiring approach was used for the remainder of the tree.  It may also be nice to have put that low branch on track for a refined style while allowing the rest of the tree to gain vigor and have space to fill in.  The upper part of the tree is stronger natually. 
 

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Re: Owen Reich workshop
« Reply #21 on: December 19, 2011, 08:19 PM »
I should clarify, the lower branch/trunk doesn't necessarily bother me.  It was just something that had to be dealt with and I think Owen did a great job with it, and the tree is on the correct more-better path.
 

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Re: Owen Reich workshop
« Reply #22 on: December 19, 2011, 09:24 PM »
Thanks, Owen.

I chose my JWP in large part because of the quality of the graft union.  I am glad that it will continue to remain in proportion.

I guess I have seen so many of the JWP grafts (where they also let the JBP trunk get wire scarred) that I was afraid that my tree would eventually become "bottom heavy", too.
 

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Re: Owen Reich workshop
« Reply #23 on: August 04, 2015, 08:31 PM »
MatsuBonsai, do you have a recent photo of this white pine?