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John Kirby
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« on: January 15, 2013, 10:03 PM »

http://www.ecolandscaping.org/01/soil/think-the-soil-food-web-is-amazing-take-a-look-at-plant-cellular-biology/
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Dan W.
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« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2013, 11:56 PM »

Thanks for the link! I havn't finished his first book yet but I've already learned way more than I ever imagined.

There's a whole lot more to the combination of art and science than I think we give credit to. Without both...we wouldn't have any art. Unless we just wanted driftwood in pots...

The more we learn about our plants the better bonsai we'll be able to create and enjoy. Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2013, 12:24 PM »

Very interesting thank you for sharing.  The autor breaks things down so they are easy to understand. 
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« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2013, 06:59 PM »

ryan neil was talking about that at a demo i was at. he said thats why akadama is for
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John Kirby
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« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2013, 07:31 PM »

Did you know that Ryan Neil discovered America?
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« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2013, 09:53 PM »

wow really i was just saying that ive heard it from him. this is exactly why some dislike forums and im starting to as well. just dont know why some people feel the need to be so rude JOHN
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« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2013, 10:43 PM »

What is your point in name dropping?

I've seen many Ryan Neil videos and frequented his Bonsai Murai web site. I imagine John has too.


Oops, pardon me, I overlooked it in your post:

You want us all to know that you attended a Ryan Neil demo.
Congratulations. You are indeed fortunate.
Wow, wouldn't it be wonderful to get in one of his specie series at his place?

BTW, I am mostly a lurker here, but I, for one, might value your thoughts about the topics at hand (if you were to offer your thoughts/opinions) but let's hear no more of your personal associations with Ryan Neil unless you want to start a thread about the topic. Wakarimaska?

Again, congratulations on having had the good fortune to attend one of Ryan's demos.
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« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2013, 11:34 PM »

Really I couldn't of sworn last time I was on here it was Boon who discovered America? Why the sensitivity to adding Ryan's name to something?
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« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2013, 12:23 AM »

Could've
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« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2013, 12:30 AM »

Did you know that Crazy Horse grew bonsai...

By the way... I discovered America... Duh Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2013, 07:31 AM »

Back to the subject..
Thanks for the link.  Interesting looking books. John and Dan, is the book written so that you don't need to be a scientist to glean useable info. from it?
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« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2013, 09:20 AM »

OK, I made a smartalek comment. Forgive me, or don't, your choice.

Read the short piece, lots of folks including Ryan (I have heard him discuss CEC at demos as well) discuss soil attributes, CEC, and fertilization schemes. The difference that showed up in this piece is that the author discusses the cellular mechanisms involved in an understandable way. Understanding the biological basis of growth, water uptake and nutrient regulation is important for developing a viable ecosystem in the bonsai pot. I really don't believe that Ryan discovered America, because I remember that "Smoke", aka Al Keppler, was discussing CEC and humates and other related things on bonsai fora in the early part of this century, thus Al Keppler really discovered America!

Judy, being a scientist, I will defer to DanW's opinion, unless he is one of that ilk as well. However, the excerpts I have read look to be something most should find accessible.

I have spent the better part of the past week in San Diego at the International Plant and Animal Genome  conference, I expect that the genetic and molecular tools needed to fully understand plant physiology, at an exquisite level, will soon be available. It will be fun to see where those tools can take us in bonsai and plant biology in general.
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« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2013, 10:51 AM »

Judy, yes the books are written so that common folk like me can understand. Smiley They are very well written and enjoyable! If textbooks were written this way, I think we'd have far more students interested in science.
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« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2013, 11:44 AM »


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Re: Recommended Books?
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2012, 12:54 PM »
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My favorite book on Bonsai, for an explanation of the whole subject is The Japanese Art of Miniature Trees and Landscapes by Yuji Yoshimura published in 1957. For new techniques, a list of  articles from Bonsai Today /Focus is provided i believe by the publisher in their new book offers. For growing concepts, and following with the idea of using soil-less mix and applying organic fertilizer on the surface, a book to look up is Teaming with Microbes A gardeners Guide to the Soil Food Web by Jeff Lowenfels & Wayne Lewis. Soil Science explained in an easy format = healthy trees.

Proves that I first pointed out The book. Looking forward to the next publication.


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« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2013, 11:47 AM »

i take it back Minogame discovered America. Or at least this book on this forum last year.
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