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Jay

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Mid Atlantic... How are we Doing???
« on: February 06, 2010, 08:59 PM »
Well I hear the Mid eastern side of the country got hit with this storm from the mid west. I just received an email (via blackberry...no internet) from a friend in Alexandria Va... Thought you'd get a kick out of it:

Measured 2 ft in the front yard. Snowed 30 hours straight. Internet still down. Everything still shut down. Looking forward to digging out tomorrow. Already getting announcements on closing throught Tuesday. Losing a number of trees too.

4th biggest snow on record. Dec storm was only 7th worst, but getting two records in the same year is really outstanding.  If I wanted this weather I would f****ing live in Vt.

Northern Vermont wants it's snow...please give it back.

But seriously hope all are well that have been or are being hit with this weather that is NOT what you'd expect.

Jay, who is just cold but not full of snow
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Re: Mid Atlantic... How are we Doing???
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2010, 01:44 PM »
Not too far from Alexandria here, and we got a good 2 feet here as well.  Areas to the west and north are pushing closer to 3 feet.  For the DC area, this is pretty much a disaster (they close the city down when we get as little as 4" of snow).

Thankfully we have kept power, internet, etc. here.  We're supposed to get another 10-20" of snow tonight through tomorrow.  That should shut the city down for the rest of the week I think.  Depending on your view of politicians, that can be a good thing :)
 

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« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2010, 03:42 PM »
I lived in Northern Virginia in the 90s Im glad i'm not there.  We had a couple of big ones then but nothing like that.  Im in Ohio now.  We had about 6 inches saturday,  and maybe another 6 today.  Much easier to deal with.      andy
 

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« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2010, 07:00 AM »
Well all I can say is that the Mid-Atlantic got my (Vermont's) snow..... give it back please.
You don't know what to do with it and you probably don't want to keep it.

Jay   ;)

PS  Spring is coming
 

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« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2010, 02:47 PM »
For snow totals, see my post on repotting"  :'(. Sad to say I have four to five feet of snow in my backyard. Most of my trees are under it. Not a problem if it were undisturbed snow, but I've had to shovel more snow over it to save my house. I expect to lose some trees have some busted trees, etc. I don't expect to see most of them for at least a month, possibly longer.

AND IF I HEAR ONE MORE NORTHERNER SAY THIS SNOWFALL WOULDN'T BE BIG DEAL UP THERE  I WILL SCREAM.... ;D ;D ;D Three to four feet of snow in a week is three to four feet of snow in a week. It's a mess anywhere it falls. Throw it into one of the biggest metropolitan areas in the nation and you get a disaster... Frankly, I'm amazed with the snow removal effort in my county. They have done a very very good job for the most part.
 

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« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2010, 03:29 PM »
I feel your pain. Three to four feet of snow in a short time frame IS A LOT no matter where it falls. In large urban areas there just isn't a place to move it to. In addition, areas that are historically not used to receiving large 'dumps' just can't afford to keep the equipment around to do the job.

The only bright spot I can give to the stricken in the mid-atlantic is that it will be gone in shorter time than you think.
Even large stacks of snow can not stand up to the W's...... wet(rain), wind, warmth and fog (OK it isn't a W but it eats snow.

We had a 4 day period with high 40's temps with rain and high winds and I lost 18 to 24 inches of snow... right down to the grass. When the weather becomes more seasonal down your way it will melt.

Thinking of you (AND MY SNOW)

Jay
 

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« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2010, 05:54 PM »
Rock, I hear you.  We get dumped on here, just off Lake Michigan.  Its the classic snow belt with lake effect snows (which means they are unpredictable).  We had a dumper early this Winter and the snow was heavy.  I have some kotobuki black pines that couldn't take the weight, so I lost some limbs.  Naturalistic style.......now.  The snow will melt and we will move on with what we have left to work with.  Hang in there.
 

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« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2010, 09:32 AM »
Hey Mark, you're absolutely right about that heavy snow damaging your trees.  I find most damage from snow occurs as it melts/compacts/refreezes, slowly tearing branches away from the trunk.  Some damage is probably inevitable at this point, given that it was shovelled onto the trees.  However, you may be able to reduce the degree of injury to your trees by carefully removing the snow from their canopies now, before it compacts any further.  I think you've got a limited window of opportunity to get this done...the mid February sun is going to melt that snow fast!  Good luck,

Dave (who got 4" of snow yesterday and is officially snowed in again... :o)
 

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« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2010, 09:48 AM »
Thanks all for the thoughts.

The snow ain't going anywhere fast, despite some melting. Two weeks after the initial 24 inches (which fell on an existing four) and a week after last Wednesday's blizzard (50 Mph winds and 12 inches of additional snow), I still have three feet of snow on top of some of the trees. I also have an ice dam in my front gutter that's flooding my upstairs bedroom... :o That complication has taken up the time I would have used to "free" some of the trees. ::) I've taken to pouring boiling water into my son's shotgun-sized Supersoaker squirt gun, leaning out the upstairs bedroom window and spraying the downspouts to thaw them out to drain (neighbors think I'm completely insane...)

THe snow is compacting and refreezing around the trees. Has been for days. Nothing I can do about it at this point. Hacking through two feet of ice and compacted snow would destroy anything underneath. Some trees in the vinyl A-frame cold frame have been squashed sideways with the snow load.



 

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Re: Mid Atlantic... How are we Doing???
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2010, 09:54 AM »
I've taken to pouring boiling water into my son's shotgun-sized Supersoaker squirt gun, leaning out the upstairs bedroom window and spraying the downspouts to thaw them out to drain (neighbors think I'm completely insane...)

I'd pay money to see that.
 

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« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2010, 10:49 AM »
"I'd pay money to see that."

I think the neighbors were recording it.  ;D At least they were pointing and laughing...One asked me how much beer I'd had...

It did, however, seem to work--or not--made me feel better anyway... ;D
 

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« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2010, 06:32 PM »
Sorry to hear that, Mark.  I was lucky never to have ice dam issues when I lived In Mass., though I sure worried about them some years.  My parent's house ( a ranch) would get them almost every winter.  I doubt there are many things more frustrating then having water damage from an ice dam; there's virtually nothing you can do to fix it shy of actually breaking the dam up with a hammer, which is kind of tough with so much snow on the ground and not really that great for the roof, either.  Good news, though...I thoroughly searched youtube and, as far as I can tell, your not on it yet ;D.  Good luck,

Dave ;D
 

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« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2010, 09:17 AM »
Funny thing, I had to hire roofers to come out and clear five feet of snow off the front and back roof edges to help with the dams. Two guys with the roofing company actually came by the morning of our second blizzard (50 mph wind, sideways snow whiteouts) and said they were going up on the roof  :o. I said Uh-Uh, my deductible doesn't cover you dieing on my front porch after you fall off ;D.


They came back the next day with rappelling harnesses and did the job--shoveled snow off half the front and half the back-- They also hacked up the ice in the gutters with a claw hammer. things have since frozen over again...

My house has become something of the neighborhood circus attraction ;D--always something going on to entertain snowbound neighbors...
 

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« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2010, 09:41 AM »
I know it seems it will never end...and it's too late now to go to the expense, but heat tape for pipes might be a measure to thaw them out. Of course it's too late to install downspout heaters for this year. But with all the global warming, they might be a good long term investment for those south of the Masie-Dixie line.
 

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« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2010, 10:23 AM »
I saw a news fluff piece (at least for us in GA ;)) in January about how folks in Nebraska were dealing with the record snow they were getting at the time.  Along with shoveling snow off the roof it showed some folks stuffing pantyhose full of rock salt and tossing it up on the roof to melt the ice dams.  I'm not sure how safe it is for the roof and I know it will not be good for potted or planted trees exposed to the melt water, but I think your neighbors would appreciate it ???.  Don't lose hope...North GA may actually approach its normal seasonal high by the end of the week (seems like the first time this winter :o)...the "heat" is bound to get up to you soon.

Dave