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General Category => General Bonsai Discussion => Topic started by: twigboy2000 on May 20, 2015, 02:52 PM

Title: Lurker challenge accepted
Post by: twigboy2000 on May 20, 2015, 02:52 PM
Hello BSG,

I've been lurking for a little over a year after meeting Owen Reich last year and him mentioning the site.  I've picked up some good information.  Having read the lurker challenge thread, it's about time I get involved.

I'd like to start with a quince that I picked up.  I'm happy with the trunk thickness, but I want to prune it way back to start the branch devlopment.  I'm somewhat hesistant to do it since I'm new to the species and since the tree started off with strong shoots and then dropped about half of the new leaves a couple of weeks after extensions started.

I've (hopefully) attached an image and would love to hear your thoughts.

Title: Re: Lurker challenge accepted
Post by: Owen Reich on May 25, 2015, 01:05 PM
Hi Chuck,
Thanks for sharing your quince.  Seems like it may be best to put the plant in a container for growing on as opposed to a small bonsai container.  The quince may have dropped some leaves to balance available roots / water with amount of foliage on top. 

Virtuals are not my thing, but perhaps someone else will step up.  The quince will likely make a good small bonsai but the necessary cuts will require a more vigorous and large root system.  Big cuts don't always fully heal.  Another option is a larger bonsai using one of the trunks. 
Title: Re: Lurker challenge accepted
Post by: Leo in NE Illinois on May 25, 2015, 02:40 PM
Nice quince, as Owen said, they need a lot of water, barely damp is too dry, they drop leaves to balance moisture. As the sun gets hotter, give afternoon shade to keep the leaves. I too would recommend a larger pot for a couple years. A late summer repot is a good time to make the move. Dont do pruning this year, let it get bigger and well established. then you can begin hard pruning after 2 years of letting it grow out. The best smaller size bonsai do spend some time as bigger shrubs before being reduced to size.
Title: Re: Lurker challenge accepted
Post by: twigboy2000 on May 25, 2015, 03:04 PM
Thanks for the pointers.  I have some training containers that I can slip it into.  Making sure the plant is healthy and vigorous was my main concern before doing anything major to it.  Happy to give it more room and let it grow for a while and re-visit later.

My original vision was a smaller multi-trunk if it will easily back bud lower.

I'll get some pics of some of my other projects up as well.

Title: Re: Lurker challenge accepted
Post by: twigboy2000 on May 26, 2015, 12:08 PM
I'm adding in three of my pine projects.  Two are JBP and one Mugo.

The first JBP is one I've had for 3 yrs now and it reportedly came from Mas Ishii in CA.  I've basically been maintaining it and working on refinement.  I'm considering two direction.  First would be to let some sacrifice branches start and pot it in a bigger container for a few years to increase the trunk.  Basically a reset. 

The second would be to take most of the top off and focus on a semi-cascade from the second bend in the trunk.  I should do some sketches...

Title: Re: Lurker challenge accepted
Post by: twigboy2000 on May 26, 2015, 12:12 PM
Here's the second JBP.

I picked this one up last year for a good discount as it had a pretty big needle cast problem.  Most of the fungus was on previous years needles and the new growth looked healthy so I took a chance.  I was very consistent with application of fungicide and this year it's looking really good.

It has some areas that need to be thinned out this fall.  At some point it was probably allowed to grow freely as there are several branches that are thick and straight.  This year I'm mainly focused on health, but want to start pushing it back in since it has a nice set of internal buds.  Lots of potential here.

Title: Re: Lurker challenge accepted
Post by: DorianJF on May 27, 2015, 04:09 AM
Very Nice Chuck

Looking forward to seeing how these progress.