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Sorce

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Layer at a friends house.
« on: July 12, 2014, 10:13 PM »
So just when I thought I was going to have to recut and start over, bingo, a bag full of roots.

Started this in May I think. Checked it in June, no roots.
Being right under the gutter, I popped a drainage hole.
This ended up being a great scenario, I don't think we've had three consecutive days without a solid downpour.

A few pics of the sequence of events.

I thought the double trunk would work, but im pretty sure the branchless one will go.
Went heavy on the roots. Im not worried at all. Wish it was a bit better spread though.
Check in Spring!

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Re: Layer at a friends house.
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2014, 10:18 PM »
 :o
 

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Re: Layer at a friends house.
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2014, 10:21 PM »
 ;D
 

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Re: Layer at a friends house.
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2014, 10:27 PM »
And all potted up. Lol .

I have to get my daughter some new sand toys!

I think with the second trunk gone, this will end up with a nice base.

Id love to hear thoughts on what to cut and leave on the other and why.

Thanks all!  ;D
 

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Re: Layer at a friends house.
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2014, 03:07 PM »
The second trunk is excellently placed as a sacrifice if you are thinking of growing this on... I'd leave it if you're not happy with trunk girth.
 

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Re: Layer at a friends house.
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2014, 05:33 AM »
I havent thought of that Marie.

Thank you!

 I could let that run, though I wish I couldve kept more of it initially. (Outdoor) Windowsill life wouldnt allow for it.

Anyone else?

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Re: Layer at a friends house.
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2014, 05:42 AM »
Hello Sorce,

It looks like the front part of that secondary trunk is dying back? its light brown compared to the green on the primary trunk. this is a zelcova right? this depends on what you want to do with it? you can make a small broom from it ? its trunk is already big enough to do the chop and start growing the primary branches.

I don't know if you'd care for a informal upright zelcova?

chop to the lowest branch on the primary trunk and use that branch as the new leader.

these grow fast :)

kind regards
Herman
 

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Re: Layer at a friends house.
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2014, 06:09 AM »
Thanks Herman.

  I believe it is a Ulmus Americana. But I am trying to figure the difference between it and water elm. And it could be Zelcova, but I think it is double toothed. Zelcova is single I believe.?

That ligh part might be just dry, i dodnt notice it before. There is definitely deadwood at the top of the main trunk.

So far so good. If this thing does ok. I would like to start a good broom. But likely an informal broom. Naturalistic.

I am only sure that the big stub on the main, and the second trunk in total will eventually go. Hopefully by next year it tells me what it wants!

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Re: Layer at a friends house.
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2014, 07:14 AM »
Wow, that is really aggressive root work for a newly-separated layer...in July.  I hope it responds well for you. 
I separate D-tree layers in the fall and slip pot them without touching the sphagnum or root ball until the following spring.
 

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« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2014, 01:38 PM »
Taking a chance.

But after losing everything with Sphagnum in it at all last winter, i figured wtf.

So far so good.

Herm.

ThAt trunk is very dead. With a lil life.

Thanks for stopping by BVF.
 

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Re: Layer at a friends house.
« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2014, 07:59 PM »
Interesting.
 

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Re: Layer at a friends house.
« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2014, 03:48 AM »
hey Sorce,

Eish, I was hoping I'm wrong about the secondary trunk :-\. Maybe it will stop dying back and bud from the part of it that is still alive...otherwise nuke it and seal it.

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« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2014, 04:45 AM »
Oh. It is good and rolled over. Both trunks have a scar at the top. From where I tore off the large branches last year. I let the bark tear down. A throw away tree..i figured it may give me some interest, or enough ugly to leave it alone.  ;)


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Re: Layer at a friends house.
« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2014, 04:53 AM »
Interesting.

    Please John,
  Just say it!  I feel some snarky coming on!

I found some quick setting concrete patch called Rockite or something like that. I will share with the group my future new process of airlayering with it.
Then I will have the experience to recommend someone else do it!

Thanks,

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Re: Layer at a friends house.
« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2014, 08:47 PM »
Interesting.