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Owen Reich

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Lava Rock and Pumice
« on: November 29, 2013, 04:05 AM »
I'm looking for sources for lava rock and pumice.  About a pallet of each.  Is anyone getting a shipment to the East Coast between now and Spring?
 

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Re: Lava Rock and Pumice
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2013, 01:02 PM »
Give me a call when you're ready, I can connect you with the guy I buy lava from.
 

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Re: Lava Rock and Pumice
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2013, 01:11 PM »
Fred Janson has clay king lava...
 

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« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2013, 09:30 PM »
I have a great connection to lava, and I'm buying a ton in the next couple months so it would be cheaper for both of us to purchase in bulk. I'm also looking to purchase a ton of pumice so we should definitely discuss this. I've been talking with a quarry in Nevada that would deliver five tons, no less though.

The lava would cost around 250/300 a ton, slightly less for the pumice.

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« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2013, 07:12 PM »
i spoke with the owner today and he had good news, he said he would be willing and able to ship bulk freight, he sells hundreds of tons of substrate a year so this would be a cake walk for him. He said that he would piggy back on  his other shipments, so its completely possible and his prices are very competitive.

He also said that although he doesn't currently have it in stock, he is  most possibly getting pumice and black lava specifically for soil purposes, so that is something you could purchase if you would like to as well.

He asked me a few things to clarify with you before he gets the pumice and black lava,

 how much would you be looking to purchase and what size particles we want? For example, He sells lava, clean 1/4 inch and below, which is minus the fines and you get ninety five percent product that's usable, that is 395 a ton, with shipping being minimal anywhere on the east coast. Tell me your address and I'll tell you the shipping costs. The pumice would be cheaper, and a ton would go a long way and would be quite a lot of pumice since it is so much less dense.

He also wanted to see how we would like it bagged, either fifty pounds bags or 1 ton bulk bags.

So we have some options with him and he is a good kind guy and very fairly priced with a huge setup. We could ask for 1 ton bags of 3/16 inch and below, clean, so minus the fines, how does that sound to people? Also who would just drive and pick it up in north Jersey and who would get it delivered?

Another option would be lava and pumice mixed, sieved to whatever size we want and below, minus the fines.

So tell me what you think, i think this doing promising, this is already where i buy my high fired clay and lava

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Re: Lava Rock and Pumice
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2013, 08:09 PM »
What's the high fired clay you were talking about?  What are the particle sizes? 
 

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Re: Lava Rock and Pumice
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2013, 12:45 AM »
The high fired clay size is I think 3/16, and is known as arcullite, which is calcined Montmorr clay. It is definitely smaller than 1/4 inch though, here is a pictures of it from my Ebay postings and a link to my auction. The larger particles in the link photos are the lava, pumice and tinder; the smaller are the clay, the quarter is there for comparison.



http://www.ebay.com/itm/181252948991?ssPageName=STRK:MESOX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1561.l2649

 

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Re: Lava Rock and Pumice
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2013, 11:46 PM »
Does an order for Houston do anything for your bulk price?  I've been looking for these materials as well.
 

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« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2013, 08:15 AM »
Honestly no, i believe you would find it cheaper to order from the west coast.

Sorry, i wish it was cheaper  :-)

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« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2013, 08:22 AM »
Hello all, a friend of mine from China has introduced me to his uncle who owns a substrate seeking company in China that ships to America. I'm not getting my hopes up just yet, but i had to tell you all, he is sending me a sample of a brown pumice that  definitely suspiciously looks like akadama, also black and regular grey. He claims that he ships it to Newark quite often and I'm highly considering buying twenty tons of it. Hopefully, this works out! I am testing the sample at the materials characterization laboratory at my school as soon as i can...

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Re: Lava Rock and Pumice
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2013, 11:52 AM »
Seki, a number of folks I know in Texas get Akadama, Lava and Pumice. I think they are ordering pallet loads from the west coast (the Lava may actually be coming from (Colorado). You can buy palletized pumice and lava from Wee Tree Farms. I don't know if she is doing akadama again or not. At $387 a ton bagged, palletized and wrapped it is a good deal. Was about $300 a pallet to ship to Massachussetts last year. John Kirby
 

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Re: Lava Rock and Pumice
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2013, 02:53 PM »
Thanks John. 

 

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Re: Lava Rock and Pumice
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2013, 04:39 PM »
Seki, I think you'll be better off coordinating locally or solo.  Wee Tree has the best price so far unless you want to buy a 1 ton bulk bag.  Not sure how much lava you need.  Decided to import a container of Akadama and Aoki Blend mixes myself.  Will notify when it arrives for small orders (less than a pallet).  Wholesale buyers can PM me to discuss.
 

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Re: Lava Rock and Pumice
« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2013, 12:43 AM »
Thanks Owen.  I talked to Wee Tree this afternoon.  Presifted and all that is what I need right now.  The market here is kinda tough for akadama but I'll definitely let you know when I get a market.

It's Jim by the way.
 

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Re: Lava Rock and Pumice
« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2013, 01:27 AM »
Scratch that on the container.  Looking like 2015...