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jlushious

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Juniper Collection advice needed
« on: April 30, 2014, 11:30 PM »
Ok friends, I generally have an idea of how to dig up plants that are growing in gardens and transplant into pots/boxes for bonsai. I have read a few blogs but I am hoping to get any addition advice. Myself and Pedro got a line on this juniper hedge (not sure what else to call it!) and the guy thinks there might be two plants in there.

We have some grow boxes and time to get dig them up Friday. So here are my questions:

1. Anything we should be concerned about in terms of preserving a certain volume of root mass on a juniper?
2. Medium suggestions - all inorganic components here for me (various ratios of turface, perlite, lava at my disposal currently).
3. Aftercare - I know there was a discussion about the value of misting juniper, and particular I am worried about this going into a dry windy summer season. Can I bag the foliage to preserve moisture? I don't have a greenhouse or anything like that.
4. Anything else I missed?

Thanks folks! I attached a few photos of the row of junipers that the guy sent me - since I heard advice is hard to come by without pictures!  ;)
 

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Re: Juniper Collection advice needed
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2014, 08:57 AM »
If you havent ( I think you have) read Walter Palls article on collecting, it is informative.

Trench deep. Bring water(for you.) Wet sphagnum for roots. And don't forget to ask about the other stuff in the yard they,"thought no one would want"
That stuff can be better material then what you went for!

I throw loose bags over stuff sometimes, to cut down on wind, but fear fungus if closed.....

Bring extra tools in case anything breaks...(i break every shovel i touch)

A through steel spade, (like Graham's) is next on my list of Bonsai tools.

Document if possible.

Get em!

Sorce
 

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Re: Juniper Collection advice needed
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2014, 09:57 AM »
1. Anything we should be concerned about in terms of preserving a certain volume of root mass on a juniper?
Be careful to get as many feeder roots as possible, but see my response for #3.
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2. Medium suggestions - all inorganic components here for me (various ratios of turface, perlite, lava at my disposal currently).
I think any junipers I'll be collecting will likely go into straight pumice.  Of what you mentioned having available, I'd stay away from the turface.
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3. Aftercare - I know there was a discussion about the value of misting juniper, and particular I am worried about this going into a dry windy summer season. Can I bag the foliage to preserve moisture? I don't have a greenhouse or anything like that.
Peter Tea's recent post, Big Sexy, showed a juniper with minimal roots that'd been in a misting enclosure.  This looked like nothing more than a chain-link dog pen with tarps to keep humidity up and wind down.  Be creative here, assuming you have a patch of ground to put something similar.
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4. Anything else I missed?
Whatever you missed will soon become experience-earned knowledge, so don't sweat it.
 

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Re: Juniper Collection advice needed
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2014, 02:54 PM »
1. If the after care is great, you can get away with less root mass, but if you can't mist it 10x a day and you have concerns about heat and (even worse) wind, preserving a large root mass is important.
2. My best results collecting junipers came when I put them in pure agricultural pumice until the following spring.
3. I mist my newly collected junipers 3 or 4 times a day (when I get up, when I get home, when I call it a night and if possible, mid-day) for the first few weeks. Goes into mottled morning sun for the first 2 months. I've never used bags the way I do when graft. I'd keep a lot of foliage.
4. For that kind of hedge, I'd strongly recommend a reciprocating saw with a demolition blade or two to remove large unwanted branches and to cut large tap roots.
 

jlushious

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Re: Juniper Collection advice needed
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2014, 03:54 PM »
Thanks everyone! It snowed here over the weekend so I didn't get anything dug up. Going tonight though, will take some photos of what I end up with. I think I can mist at least 3-4 times per day. Will try to preserve as much root mass as possible, I am hoping they will be pretty good given that the house is right there, so it will have had limited room to spread spread (maybe, hopefully!).

Wonderful advice, thanks again!
 

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Re: Juniper Collection advice needed
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2014, 07:05 PM »
  Good luck. There is nothing collecting something like this and making something out of it. It's a good feeling.
 

jlushious

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Re: Juniper Collection advice needed
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2014, 09:13 AM »
Well that was an experience!

I wrote a whole blog post about it here if you want to read the gory details, haha - http://bonsaicalgary.wordpress.com/2014/05/07/urban-yamadori-juniper/

But here are some photos. Bottom line is that it was WAY bigger in person than in the photos. And I only had time to dig 1 of the 5 or so that were in there.

Here are some photos of the process/final product. Not sure if it was worth it - in terms of material quality - but it was good experience to dig it up and will be good experience seeing what I can make of it (and whether it lives!).

Photo 1 - right out of the ground, yes that's snow in the adjacent shrub... >:(
Photo 2 - it's huge, enough said, also really long leggy growth
Photo 3 - the base, lots of thick branches coming out at all angles, so lots of options for primary trunk lines and carving