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Jay

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Re: How many is too many? Collection size
« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2013, 07:10 PM »
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Re: How many is too many? Collection size
« Reply #16 on: January 26, 2013, 03:49 AM »
At this point I try not to have any tropicals ....
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That comment made me laugh.  Is it like hitting a moving target?   ;D
They creep up on you and before you know it you've got them on your bench. Been there...
 

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Re: How many is too many? Collection size
« Reply #17 on: January 26, 2013, 05:32 AM »
OK ..... It is limiting, admitted. And there are many many wonderful tropical species. It is just not something I can do here and now.

In northern Vermont the winters are long and cold and the natural light is limited. My home is kept in the very low 60's F during the day and in the mid 50's at night. I do not choose to invest in heating nor do I wish to invest in support of the power company to run supplemental lighting. Also it leaves me free to enjoy winter activities while my trees nap.

Just one mans view on the subject.

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Re: How many is too many? Collection size
« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2013, 04:32 AM »
Normally, when someone starts Bonsai here in the West Indies, we encourage them to grow about 300 trees, after they have or if they have survived the 6 months of keeping something alive [ and boredom for them does not set in.]
This allows the beginner to get all of the Bonsai master clipping, wiring, transplanting out of their system.

At some point 10 years down the road or so, they discover that they transplant a given number early and quickly, and another set very slowly.
A good indicator of what to get rid of.
Thus a collection begins.

There is a ratio that gives the number one can have and tend to, it is the ratio of re-growth after pruning/transplanting to the ability to tend to.

Watering if done by hand will also factor in here, but most folk seem to want to hose.

We also actively discourage folk with yournger than 13 year old children from getting into bonsai, as the children will always come first as attention and care goes. [ also dependson how independent the children are.]
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Re: How many is too many? Collection size
« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2013, 07:35 AM »
300!!!? Boy I wish I had the room to have half that number. I could have all seedlings I suppose, I thought I had a lot with what I have got, about 100. They are all sizes and states of styling from raw material to nearly finished.
In fact I only know of one person with more that many trees, oh for the room to have them,
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Re: How many is too many? Collection size
« Reply #20 on: January 28, 2013, 07:55 AM »
If watering needs and proper maintenance keep you from enjoying bonsai, you have too many or need to enlist some help.  Pretty sure this was referenced earlier, but the adage of Peter Adams to liquidate 3 bonsai of lower quality whenever you buy a new one is a great one.  I took it to heart about 5 years or so ago and still think its great. 

If you have trees at different stages of development, I'd also say that getting your best stuff I the best pots possible should also influence your collection "ceiling".  This is something I think we can all work on.
 

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Re: How many is too many? Collection size
« Reply #21 on: January 28, 2013, 08:04 AM »
Geoff,

on our side, the folk who do bonsai tend to have fairly large yards, and remember, 300 also means cuttings, etc. not efforts in proper pots.
Additionally, it is often more a case of possession, than really caring for trees.

Hee hee, once they are watered, trees tend to look after themselves, so a hose allows for so man more.
Good Day,
Anthony.

* Closer to the equator, reflected north light can grow many trees well, especially if you have a white wall. So even "dark" areas will be able to grow trees or shrubs.
[ see the light requirements set out in Indoor bonsai by P.Liesneiwiz[spelling?] and imagine under a tropical sun.]
 

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Re: How many is too many? Collection size
« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2013, 01:07 PM »
Yes Anthony, of course, I was not being serious. Some of my trees are very small, and don't take up much room, or looking after too.
Geoff
 

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Re: How many is too many? Collection size
« Reply #23 on: February 06, 2013, 12:22 PM »
It is important to have enough trees that you can let something grow out on the bench and not be frustrated for lack of something to work on. If you are feeling impatient, you need more trees. I think ideal would be 5 trees more than you have time to work on. That way you won't be tempted to over-work your trees. Many trees won't tolerate more than one major stress per year. Well, after repotting that mugo pine, what is a person to do? So having a few too many trees is the answer.
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