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PaulH

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Grammar complaint
« on: June 12, 2013, 02:35 PM »
"Bonsai" is NOT a verb!

We do not "bonsai" a tree.....

There, I got it off my chest. I feel much better now.

Paul
 

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Re: Grammar complaint
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2013, 02:41 PM »
That's what we're here for...

I don't disagree, but since you were bold enough to make the statement, what do you propose we say we're doing when practicing this hobby?
 

PaulH

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Re: Grammar complaint
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2013, 03:41 PM »
We can create bonsai, style bonsai, collect bonsai, buy bonsai, sell bonsai, maintain bonsai, teach bonsai, learn about bonsai,  kill bonsai, enjoy bonsai. We just don't bonsai bonsai.
 

Larry Gockley

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Re: Grammar complaint
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2013, 04:04 PM »
Hey Paul, now that's funny !
 

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Re: Grammar complaint
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2013, 04:46 PM »
Torturing tiny trees?
 

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Re: Grammar complaint
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2013, 06:18 PM »
My kids ask me if I'm going to play with trees.
 

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Re: Grammar complaint
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2013, 08:10 PM »
Yah, well, there are lots of egregious grammatical errors in these forums. There is a difference between you're and your, but it is being lost by mis-usage/mis-pronunciation. The adverb has died ('don't forget the 'ly' my junior high english teacher used to say). But, we don't speak middle engish because the language adapts to usage and invention despite how disgusting it may be to 'grammar nazis'.

I frequently am asked if I am going to 'bonsai it [that tree]'. What the hell, it is descriptive of the process that it is going to be reduced in size and put into a small pot (maybe even made pretty). One word 'bonsai' as a verb saves a lot of jawing. Get over it. Life and language evolves. Tweet that truthiness.

... just sayin'
 

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Re: Grammar complaint
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2013, 08:33 PM »
Definition of HEDGE

  hedge
noun \?hej\
1

 a: a fence or boundary formed by a dense row of shrubs or low trees

b: barrier, limit

2

: a means of protection or defense (as against financial loss)


3

: a calculatedly noncommittal or evasive statement

 Hedge is not a verb either, yet I "hedge" my boxwoods around my front yard twice a year.

Cheers, have to go out and bonsai some more tridents......
 

PaulH

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Re: Grammar complaint
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2013, 09:07 PM »
OK, OK, you guys win.

I'm going to go car my truck home and dinner my food.
 

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Re: Grammar complaint
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2013, 02:39 AM »
Paul, I also resent verbing, but what if I talk the talk without being able to walk the walk?

J.


404!
 

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Re: Grammar complaint
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2013, 03:54 PM »
I don't like when people say "bonsais". I'm not even sure if it's incorrect grammar but it sounds icky.
 

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Re: Grammar complaint
« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2013, 08:59 PM »
Gaffer has anybody looked to Webster  it could infact be used as a verb. What do you say when you want to paint a picture.
 

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Re: Grammar complaint
« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2013, 10:51 AM »
I suppose that in Japanese  usage bonsai is a noun but since the word has been adopted into the English language its nature will be determined by popular usage and that seems to be trending toward its usage as a noun and a verb.

Usage of a word adopted into English from another language does not necessarily have to correspond exactly with its usage in the original language.

Cheers,

Steve
 

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Re: Grammar complaint
« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2013, 11:03 AM »
Dictionary lists it as a noun if that helps, but I agree with Steve, even though it is listed one way, popular usage (or unknolwedgable people) may eventually cause it to get used differently.
 

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Re: Grammar complaint
« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2013, 12:48 PM »
I'd be happy if folks would just pronounce "bonsai" correctly. I'm amazed at how many folks in my club mispronounce the word.

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