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dre

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good youtube video
« on: November 06, 2012, 10:23 AM »
i've been watching this channel for a while now but saw this one and thought to myself this needs to be shared tell me what you think.....   
 

Elliott

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Re: good youtube video
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2012, 12:14 PM »
it"s ok with a piece of material that is considered good outside of Japan by many standards. Owen, can you put a link to your video's and blog where you can actualy learn something and not just wish the tree was sitting on your bench after you watch it?
 

dre

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Re: good youtube video
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2012, 01:53 PM »
elliott know one said anything about it being a masterpiece and yes i agree with you owen and bjorn's videos are full of information this was just for enjoyment i enjoy the whole time lapse thing
 

Elliott

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Re: good youtube video
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2012, 02:18 PM »
not a masterpiece but better than most. There are some vids on there of people collecting sticks and I worry about newbies going out and tearing up the environment. The time lapse was kind of cool and different. would like to of known their thought process as they styled it, however.
 I'm glad you know about the bonsai in Japan video series. I actually watch those and the Ryan Niel demo and show critique video's and take notes on my Iphone. if your not carefull, you might learn something, as bill Cosby used to say.
 

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Re: good youtube video
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2012, 03:36 PM »
that was sweet! It would be awesome to see more trees done in time lapse.
 

dre

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Re: good youtube video
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2012, 03:37 PM »
Elliott I actually am very lucky I have Owen when he gets back from Japan coming to my house in April and as for bonsai study I study with michele andolfo and Italian artist who studied in Japan you should look him up now he has some masterpieces and while studying with Jim and advancing my technique my trees I worked with him have even better futures. My next step is to try to line myself up to study IN Japan GOD willing
 

dre

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Re: good youtube video
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2012, 03:40 PM »
Nathan he has other videos just like that but my opinion  this is his best one all the videos are a good watch but as the finished tree this is the best one
 

Elliott

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Re: good youtube video
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2012, 04:51 PM »
I know who Michele Andolfo is and he is excellent. I will hopefully do some things with Owen next year when he is in Cally. I'm in a study group with Ryan Niel (who isn't by now?) and we meet the beginning of next month for a couple days this time. You are correct on Japan. I also want to go study there. I would blow up a bus load of Jerry's kids to spend at least a good year there.
 Unfortunately, if you are not in great shape so that you do enough labor to pay for yourself, you have to pay out of pocket. I barely make it here at home with a job. If I can figure out a way, you bet I'M THERE!
 I will hopefully go to kokufu show in Feb. that will be awesome.
 

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Re: good youtube video
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2012, 08:09 PM »
I would blow up a bus load of Jerry's kids


I wonder if I'm the only one who can't recall a single thing mentioned by Elliott other than the part I quoted above.
 

Elliott

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Re: good youtube video
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2012, 09:54 PM »
I can't even recall that. We're better off that way.  ;D
 

dre

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Re: good youtube video
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2012, 11:11 PM »
Elliott i was going to try to study with Ryan but he charges way too much I was trying to just go to his nursery and work on whatever he his and work for him for a week at a time and i would still have to pay a 1000. I know Ryan is a asset to bonsai here in America but i just cant afford that maybe one day after I hit the lottery then I will be at ryan"s nursery
 

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Re: good youtube video
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2012, 11:45 PM »
Yeah, by the time you factor in air fair, hotel, expensives and work time off, it realy does become expensive. Somehow it feels like bonsai should be available for all equaly and $ should not be a barrier. I can easily get bitter when I see my friends and people around me who don't eat, sleep, shit bonsai like I do, and cause they aren't screwed by the economy, get to buy the cool material and fly all around to the best teachers and improve their skillS.
 I had to sell a pet near and dear to my heart that I have had over 16 years for my 1 week trip to Japan next feb and it does not seem fair. Life ain't fair, however.
 Ryan is great, but you will certainly learn all you can handle from Owen and his rate is dirt cheap in comparison. My group with Ryan is split with 5 others, so the $ is way less. I can't afford to go up to his place lile my friends can. I often have to sell trees to pay for these workshops ( I have sold trees to pay the rent).
 The money part is a touchy, sore subject with me. Unfortunatly, Masters like Ryan are not on a sliding scale. They are out to keep prices up so that it is possible to be a bonsai proffessional in this country, which over all raises the amount of pro's around which leads to better bonsai here in the west, so I see the logic of charging an arm and a leg and your left nebari.
 

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Re: good youtube video
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2012, 01:24 PM »
i feel you ive had to sell tree and pots for bills and workshops as well but what can you do that whole $$$ thing upsets me a lot but thats why i try to go to the teachers that are affordable for two reasons one that are affordable and second since they are affordable means they care more about spreading bonsai then getting rich like nick lenz when i went to a workshop of his 3 weeks ago he made a comment about this pots which was i always kept my pot prices down so my students could afford them and that says a lot about his character to me and beside hes just great to be around knowledge and his stories 
 

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Re: good youtube video
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2012, 07:18 PM »
I am a big fan of the time-lapse videos.  It takes a massive amount of memory to make those; even a short one.  YouTube has a ton of bonsai-related videos, but most are not good references.  It bugs me when they are "how to" videos and not based on experience.  It's fun to poke fun at the poorly shot ones too  ;).  Bjorn has been working on timelapse too.  I'll have a white pine piece coming out on an episode eventually and the last few have a few clips of it.