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Re: .herman and John in general discussion on soil comp.
« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2014, 01:03 PM »

the hackberrys come from a zone 9, and as such would be able to handle frost and light snow, so a winter's rest would probably be appreciated. Mind you, within the original batch of seedlings, one seemed to be going tropical. There are are roots in the growing troughs, that handle two years with no cold, but as they age and gain beauty, the sadness at losing them is too great.

With regards to the Chinese pots, are they porous ?

On this side, we have no trees or shrubs that enjoy permanently wet feet, even our mangroves, growing in clay at the seaside, enjoy a long period of dry soil [ almost 6 months.]

The original stock plants from the UK, via Holland from China, were in some sort of clay soil, but to import into Trinidad, all trees/shrubs on the allowed list [ conifers are permanently banned, save as examined and tested seeds ] must be barerooted, have a UK phyto certificate and be treated for diseases or insects etc. especially nematodes.
So all that clay type soil was left in the UK garbage system or the yard of the boarding house, back in 92 or so.
Same for Italy back in 83, and the US in 80.
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Re: .herman and John in general discussion on soil comp.
« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2014, 05:56 AM »
Herman,Their trees died. My favorite  from John Naka's books referred to emergency repotting bonsai in summer to a sandy spot in the garden, who does that now?

We used to do a lot of things we don 't do anymore- burn witches, have sewage running in open gutters, drive without seat belts.  Things do change over time.

Use clinkers, they sound like a good drainage component.


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Re: .herman and John in general discussion on soil comp.
« Reply #17 on: April 14, 2014, 07:39 AM »
hahaha just curious mr Kirby, or i Heard somewhere its actually Dr Kirby ?

I will not ever use fine garden soil or garden loam in my bonsai mixes, never have. The results this new mix gives me is a lot better than the results of my former mix(2/5 grit: 2/5 compost : 1/5 palm peat). Was curious how they've kept trees alive for over 150 years in such a mix? or is it that all the sh...y export trees gets such a mix and their top trees gets much the same mix as the japanese gives their trees?

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