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General Category => General Bonsai Discussion => Topic started by: JRob on March 18, 2015, 03:39 PM

Title: Forest plantings
Post by: JRob on March 18, 2015, 03:39 PM
Anyone interested in a thread on forest plantings? I'd love to see what people are doing? JRob
Title: Re: Forest plantings
Post by: DorianJF on March 19, 2015, 05:41 AM
I think that is a great idea.

Are you going to start a new thread or do use this one?
Title: Re: Forest plantings
Post by: JRob on March 19, 2015, 06:42 AM
use this one
Title: Re: Forest plantings
Post by: DorianJF on March 19, 2015, 07:05 AM
Perfect

I have 3 forest plantings.  One is a Trident maple forest.

I originally had it in a shallow pot (though I believed it not shallow enough) and I added some rocks into it and I was fairly happy with it.  But I hadn't re-potted it in a few years so I took it to a bonsai nursery for assistance in re-potting and it was put into another larger pot.(a hideous one at that)

I have been looking for very flat white penjing pots but so far I have not been able to find anything here in SA.  I have a friend trying to make me one at her pottery class so I will see if that will work.  If not I may go for a slate / slab and move it onto that come spring.

Pic 1- Purchased in April 2008

Pic 2 and 3 - March 2014 before re-pot

Pic 4 -  November 2014 after re-pot

I am definitely going to change the pot on my forest as it does not appeal to me at all in the current blue pot. 

Your thoughts?
Title: Re: Forest plantings
Post by: DorianJF on March 19, 2015, 07:34 AM
My 2nd forest planting is Black Monkey thorns - Acacia Burkei

I started this in 2010 with a few seedlings that I bought at a nursery.  In 2011 I added more seedlings as a few had died off.

I had done almost no work on it since 2011 except for a re-pot in Sept 2014 into a smaller pot.

In January 2015 I decided to add in a few rocks and and try to make it look slightly better.  So I took out the old larger pot and did some work on it.

Again the idea is to get it into a shallower pot.  I have held back on most of the cutting on the upper branches as I need to get it into the pot first before I do some proper cutting.

Pic 1 - Sept 2011

Pic 2 - January 2015

Pic 3 and 4 - March 2015

Title: Re: Forest plantings
Post by: DorianJF on March 19, 2015, 07:57 AM
My 3 forest planting may actually not even be a forest as it now only consists of 4 trees as one died.

It is a Hinoki Cypress planting that I got last year September as a birthday gift from my 2 boys.

The plan was always to re-pot it (again a ugly pot) and make it nicer but then one of the trees died so I have not done anything with and will look again come spring 2015.  The thought now is that I remove one of the trees and make a 3 tree Hinoki Cypress Saikei

Pic 1 - Sept 2014

Pic 2 - March 2015 and looking very worse for wear.
Title: Re: Forest plantings
Post by: SpongeMann on March 19, 2015, 08:41 PM
Very cool D. I like the rocks on the Hinoki planting. What and are they?
Title: Re: Forest plantings
Post by: DorianJF on March 20, 2015, 02:24 AM
Thanks Sponge

Yeah definitely rocks.  In the beginning I was not really happy with the rocks as I kept on thinking that they just did not fit.

But looking at the image that I took yesterday, I actually like the look of it when I look straight on from the front.

I think that when I re-pot it in spring into a new pot, I will try and incorporate the same rocks again and layout although one of the trees from the left hand side will be removed and planted on its own.
Title: Re: Forest plantings
Post by: plantmanky on March 20, 2015, 06:59 PM
Here's a Trident maple forest that's been around for a while.  To me, rocks are an essential part of a forest planting; it helps to give context to the overall composition.
Title: Re: Forest plantings
Post by: JRob on March 20, 2015, 09:01 PM
Here is a trident forest. the main group was a birthday gift from my son last year. Randy do you recognize it?
Title: Re: Forest plantings
Post by: JRob on March 20, 2015, 09:02 PM
A Japanese Beech
Title: Re: Forest plantings
Post by: JRob on March 20, 2015, 09:03 PM
 Hackberry
Title: Re: Forest plantings
Post by: JRob on March 20, 2015, 09:04 PM
Trident done at a club demo. I purchased it at the club auction last year
Title: Re: Forest plantings
Post by: JRob on March 20, 2015, 09:05 PM
Mixed species. Lost a few last year and will add to it next year
Title: Re: Forest plantings
Post by: Larry Gockley on April 01, 2015, 09:08 AM
I too like the idea of a new thread . Also like all the trees posted here, especially Dorian's acacia burkei. They remind me of texas ebony, also an acacia.
Title: Re: Forest plantings
Post by: DougB on April 03, 2015, 10:21 AM
Perhaps there should be a discussion between a bonsai forest, penjing and saikei.  They are very different.  We should be properly describing our creations.
Title: Re: Forest plantings
Post by: J.Kent on April 03, 2015, 02:42 PM
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Perhaps there should be a discussion between a bonsai forest, penjing and saikei.  They are very different.  We should be properly describing our creations.

Not as much difference as you might think.  The Chinese definition of "penjing" easily incorporates all three.  (See:  Penjing, the Chinese Art of Miniature Gardens by Hu Yunhua).

I think it is only in the West that we consider them to be distinctly different kinds of small tree displays.  The Japanese seem to make an attempt at a distinction between Saikei and bonsai, but there are many examples where their bonsai forests start to merge into the landscapes with stones.  And a great many of Arthur Joura's landscape bonsai at the North Carolina Arboretum could easily be considered either or both. 

Sometimes I think that we in the west -- and perhaps especially in the USA -- tend to get much too concerned with pigeonholes into which we can cram out little trees -- whether they really fit or not. 
Title: Re: Forest plantings
Post by: DorianJF on April 07, 2015, 04:38 AM
Thanks Larry for the positive feedback.

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Sometimes I think that we in the west -- and perhaps especially in the USA -- tend to get much too concerned with pigeonholes into which we can cram out little trees -- whether they really fit or not. 
I think this is a very valid point.  Ultimately one has to enjoy the view of the bonsai whether it is a Saikei, penjing etc.
Title: Re: Forest plantings
Post by: Arnold on April 07, 2015, 09:45 AM
Here comes my forest ficus nerifolia just planted a week ago, bought it from our local nursery. :) I'll be glad to receive suggestions from you guys!!! :) :) :)
Title: Re: Forest plantings
Post by: J.Kent on April 07, 2015, 04:06 PM
Very nice start.  I would shorten the two end trees -- the left one a little and the right one quite a bit.