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Title: first nursery stock
Post by: joe cervantes on July 23, 2009, 01:09 AM
Just got my first nursery stock Sunday and I think I am ready to work on them. Nervous of course.
1st is the Yaupon Holly(Stokes Dwarf/illex vomitoria.
2nd is the Varigated Chinese Privet/ Ligustrum Sinensis .
 Has anyome worked with these before. Any pics? Just trying to decide what kind of soil to use. I will post pics as soon as I can. Thansk, Joe
Title: Re: first nursery stock
Post by: Jay Wilson on July 25, 2009, 11:03 AM
Hey Joe,
I've no idea what you should use for soil in Texas. I think hot and dry when I think of Texas. Here, I'm hot and humid.
 There is some interesting info in the thread here about 'soil ingredients'.

Got pics yet?

Jay
Title: Re: first nursery stock
Post by: joe cervantes on July 25, 2009, 03:16 PM
Hi Jay. After reading all the posts on soils in this forum and others, I feel overwhelmed. I do think I might go with Turface and maybe some kind of bark for water retention. Here in San Antonio it is very hot right now and it does get humid,as well as dry at times. As for pics, I just took some and I will be resizing them. Should have them posted in an hour or so. Thanks, Joe
Title: Re: first nursery stock
Post by: bonsaikc on July 25, 2009, 04:27 PM
Joe,
I know that Howard and Sylvia Smith, of Dallas, successfully use Boon's recipe which Matsubonsai detailed in his posts on the soils thread. In fact, students all over North America have found that it works perfectly well in any climate. There's no need to overthink the subject.

I use the same recipe except that I am unable to get decomposed granite, so I do without it. This soil mix necessitates watering more often, and since I work long hours, I invested about $50 in a mist watering system from dripworksusa.com. It had everything I needed for my collection. I added another $50 for a very good battery-operated programmable timer, so I can water by hand in the morning, in the heat of the day the mist system comes on, and I can touch up by hand at night if I need to.

This has worked very well for me but requires a VERY loose soil mix like what we described. By varying the size of the particles, my water lovers keep more water (smaller particles) and my drought lovers keep less (large particles). That way every tree gets what it needs when I water everything at once.

Good luck. I am confident that this mix has proven to be very good in your area. The only other aspect is your care for your trees.

Chris
Title: Re: first nursery stock
Post by: MatsuBonsai on July 25, 2009, 09:12 PM
Chris is exactly right.  Boon soil mix here, plus heart-of-the-garden kit from dripworks, plus 180 degree mini jets and a Dig battery timer works great for me.  Adjust the particle size a bit for the water lovers, plus a little shredded sphagnum moss on top keeps everything happy during the day while I'm at work.

A fair amount of organic fertilizer throughout the year keeps the trees healthy and growing.

I think Howard and Sylvia are experimenting with a little more shade this year during the hottest months.
Title: Re: first nursery stock
Post by: joe cervantes on July 25, 2009, 10:31 PM
hope fully this works. First up is the Yaupon Holly/llex vomitoria.
Title: Re: first nursery stock
Post by: joe cervantes on July 25, 2009, 10:34 PM
2nd is the Varegated Chinese Privet/Ligustrum Sinensis Varegated.
Title: Re: first nursery stock
Post by: joe cervantes on July 27, 2009, 10:57 PM
Hi Y'all!! Here are some pics of my first time prunning. Its the Yaupon Holly.Front. rear and a pic showing how much I removed. I basically just took off maybe 1/2, cut some branches and decided to stop. I am still not sure what style I am aiming for.I was thinking of maybe wiring the middle (3rd from left) towards the inside. I'll be reading up more on wiring tonight. Hopefully start wiring tomorrow after work. Any input is surely welcome. Thanks, Joe
Title: Re: first nursery stock
Post by: MatsuBonsai on July 29, 2009, 03:51 PM
Joe,

What style are you going for with this one?  Looks like a lot of work planned for this one.  I wouldn't recommend over working it until you have a plan in mind.
Title: Re: first nursery stock
Post by: joe cervantes on August 01, 2009, 12:06 AM
Hi John. Thanks for the reply. Not sure where I want to go with this one. Maybe Mame but not sure which style. Any suggestions? Thanks, Joe
Title: Re: first nursery stock
Post by: Larry Gockley on August 01, 2009, 08:53 AM
Hi Joe. Just read this thread. You might want to take a short drive, shorter than for me, to Wimberly, Texas, to visit Jade Gardens. They have tried and tested, for your area, bonsai soil, and Chuck has lots and lots of stock and pots to pick from. He also has a Texas Bonsai Display  , TO DIE FOR.   Larry
Title: Re: first nursery stock
Post by: joe cervantes on August 01, 2009, 02:23 PM
Thanks Larry. Jade Gardens is where I got my first Bonsai. It was a Kingsville Boxwood. I killed it. I kept it indoors at first and was too woried about overwatering. Lesson learned. I love the Bonsai Exhibit.It is To Die For!! Chuck and Pat Ware are fellow members at the San Antonio Bonsai Society.