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Kajukid

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Fertilizer cakes?
« on: September 14, 2011, 02:48 PM »
So I was thinking about doing Matsu's fertilizers but I was thinking about adding  blood meal to it. What do u think, and how much should i use. Also I wanted to add liquid seaweed too?? Also I was reading this one fertilizer cake recipe from a guy in Orlando  called Orlando Bonsai and he puts elmer's glue in the mix to hold it together instead of using flower. What do all of u think about that?
 

John Romano

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Re: Fertilizer cakes?
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2011, 03:34 PM »
This one makes me chuckle.  About 15 years ago, my friend called me up asking me to help him make our own fertilizer cakes.  A few weeks later we had all our ingredients at his house and started mixing away.  I forget which recipe he was following but it did call for elmers glue as a stabilizer.  Well, he kept putting in a little more, a little more.... because he thought it was not thickening the mix enough (even though I told him it will thicken as it dries. He overrode my thought).  In a couple of days, these fertilizer balls were as hard as cannonballs! ;-)  You could throw one through a wall!  We still laugh over this experience years later.
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Kajukid

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« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2011, 04:14 PM »
haha that is pretty funny...but this one only call for like, i think, 6-8oz of elmer's glue...
 

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« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2011, 01:00 AM »
We did kind of an experimental class with blood meal, bone meal and feather meal, equal parts. We used egg whites for the binder. Didn't really bind that well, but my dogs went crazy for it! Imagine: everything that's tasty and beautiful to a dog, blood, bones, eggs and feathers, all in neat little bite-sized morsels!

If I just put it on the soil, it got a little smelly and hairy. Our instructor said that was fine. He works his in an inch or so into the soil, so that it can get smelly and hairy under wraps :) Plants liked it just fine.
 

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Re: Fertilizer cakes?
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2011, 07:47 AM »
I found a fertilizer called Fox Farm.  They have mixes for what ever you need.  I got the Tiger bloom for flowering trees and the All Purpose for others.  They have everything you need mixed in it from sea weed to blood meal.  Check the internet and your Garden Center.  It is a dry mix and you use it by the spoon full.  My trees responded fast to it. 
 

Chrisl

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« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2011, 11:34 AM »
I made a mix of Matsu's cakes this summer, but did add blood mealin addition, and in equal parts.  Nothing else changed.  The flour did a great job of holding them together.  Forget the glue, stick with the tried and true recipe imo.
 

Kajukid

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« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2011, 12:56 PM »
well i added the glue because i thought i had flower but i didnt,,...so i'll see how it does....and how in the hell do i keep flys off of the cakes while drying...UGH...so many of them...
 

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« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2011, 04:03 PM »
....and how in the hell do i keep flys off of the cakes while drying...

Let them get trapped in the glue -- more protein!  ;)
 

Kajukid

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« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2011, 04:15 PM »
....and how in the hell do i keep flys off of the cakes while drying...

Let them get trapped in the glue -- more protein!  ;)

for reals???
 

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« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2011, 05:32 PM »
Kajukid, I put the cakes on flat tins, and then covered the trays with newspaper while drying under the sun.  It let the moisture out and the flies out.  Good Luck
 

Kajukid

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« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2011, 05:53 PM »
thank you
 

Chrisl

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« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2011, 11:26 AM »
You're very welcome!  Glad I can finally help someone for a change  ;D
 

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Re: Fertilizer cakes?
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2011, 05:24 PM »
hmm... my advice would be to avoid using glue and stick to what has worked for years and years which would just be adding enough flour until it sticks together.  Blood meal and liquid sea weed would be fine.