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Anthony

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Letter to Joshua Hanzman
« on: October 04, 2013, 08:45 AM »
Joshua,

you asked about the categories, they could look like this

[1] Obtaining your first 5 to 10 Bonsai [ indoors or outdoors and sizes ?]
Why  5 to 10, so you don't kill them with too much attention.

[a] Just water and keep healthy.

[a1]If you must prune, buy something unkempt and try your hand, do not repot. [ 3 to 5 plants ]

Prune and repot [ somewhere bright for a week to revive ] in the correct season
Soil mixes ? Why, your climate?

[c] Take notes in a book, memory is not dependable.

After while it becomes clear that one should work with a friend in Bonsai and just learn to water/fertilise at home

[2] At some point learn to wire or grow and clip, but not on the ones above, 3 to 5 new plants.

If you have survived the 3 to 5 years, you move onto the Design part.

[a] Trunks and roots, thickness you want and distribution of roots around the tree. Ground growing.
Which you may have also started in part 1.

Branches and then Branchlets.

After doing this about 5 times or more. You move onto designs.

[3 ] You can manipulate trunk sizes, branches, and so on. You can buy the size you want, and do as you wish or harvest what you planted.

About 5 or 10 years may have passed by now.

How many trees do you have and are any passable as examples of the craft ?

Along the way you find a way to observe and retain the information on trees, as well as look at excellent books on trees well designed - Kokofu, or Chinese as you wish.

If you try to do too many things, you will learn nothing, there is an order, which you will discover and it is often particular to you.
EGO is also a big part, enjoying a hobby or secretly wanting to show off or approaching 50 and have nothing to think back about, no real achievements.

Come in and say what you would like to fill in the blanks on.
Good Day
Anthony [ all typed, to be read in a soft/calm/ soothing voice.]
 

Joshua Hanzman

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Re: Re: Re: Letter to Joshua Hanzman
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2013, 10:38 PM »
Joshua,

you asked about the categories, they could look like this

[1] Obtaining your first 5 to 10 Bonsai [ indoors or outdoors and sizes ?]
Why  5 to 10, so you don't kill them with too much attention.

[a] Just water and keep healthy.

[a1]If you must prune, buy something unkempt and try your hand, do not repot. [ 3 to 5 plants ]

Prune and repot [ somewhere bright for a week to revive ] in the correct season
Soil mixes ? Why, your climate?

[c] Take notes in a book, memory is not dependable.

After while it becomes clear that one should work with a friend in Bonsai and just learn to water/fertilise at home

[2] At some point learn to wire or grow and clip, but not on the ones above, 3 to 5 new plants.

If you have survived the 3 to 5 years, you move onto the Design part.

[a] Trunks and roots, thickness you want and distribution of roots around the tree. Ground growing.
Which you may have also started in part 1.

Branches and then Branchlets.

After doing this about 5 times or more. You move onto designs.

[3 ] You can manipulate trunk sizes, branches, and so on. You can buy the size you want, and do as you wish or harvest what you planted.

About 5 or 10 years may have passed by now.

How many trees do you have and are any passable as examples of the craft ?

Along the way you find a way to observe and retain the information on trees, as well as look at excellent books on trees well designed - Kokofu, or Chinese as you wish.

If you try to do too many things, you will learn nothing, there is an order, which you will discover and it is often particular to you.
EGO is also a big part, enjoying a hobby or secretly wanting to show off or approaching 50 and have nothing to think back about, no real achievements.

Come in and say what you would like to fill in the blanks on.
Good Day
Anthony [ all typed, to be read in a soft/calm/ soothing voice.]

Anthony thank you for this post, when I read the 'to be read in a soft/calm/soothing voice' part I must admit I chuckled a bit... at the same time I understand and appreciate your sensitivity, reminds me of a kind teacher. On the topic of ego, I would not say I'm impervious to ego bruising, but I am thick-skinned and do not remotely think I know nor ever will know enough to be considered impervious to correction. So feel free to tell me if

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Joshua Hanzman

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Re: Re: Re: Letter to Joshua Hanzman
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2013, 01:10 AM »
Joshua,

you asked about the categories, they could look like this

[1] Obtaining your first 5 to 10 Bonsai [ indoors or outdoors and sizes ?]
Why  5 to 10, so you don't kill them with too much attention.

[a] Just water and keep healthy.

[a1]If you must prune, buy something unkempt and try your hand, do not repot. [ 3 to 5 plants ]

Prune and repot [ somewhere bright for a week to revive ] in the correct season
Soil mixes ? Why, your climate?

[c] Take notes in a book, memory is not dependable.

After while it becomes clear that one should work with a friend in Bonsai and just learn to water/fertilise at home

[2] At some point learn to wire or grow and clip, but not on the ones above, 3 to 5 new plants.

If you have survived the 3 to 5 years, you move onto the Design part.

[a] Trunks and roots, thickness you want and distribution of roots around the tree. Ground growing.
Which you may have also started in part 1.

Branches e then Branchlets.

After doing this about 5 times or more. You move onto designs.

[3 ] You can manipulate trunk sizes, branches, and so on. You can buy the size you want, and do as you wish or harvest what you planted.

About 5 or 10 years may have passed by now.

How many trees do you have and are any passable as examples of the craft ?

Along the way you find a way to observe and retain the information on trees, as well as look at excellent books on trees well designed - Kokofu, or Chinese as you wish.

If you try to do too many things, you will learn nothing, there is an order, which you will discover and it is often particular to you.
EGO is also a big part, enjoying a hobby or secretly wanting to show off or approaching 50 and have nothing to think back about, no real achievements.

Come in and say what you would like to fill in the blanks on.
Good Day
Anthony [ all typed, to be read in a soft/calm/ soothing voice.]

Anthony thank you very much for taking the time to do this, I appreciate it immensely. I must admit that I chuckled after reading the 'to be read in a soft/calm/soothing voice' but nevertheless I understand and appreciate your sensitivity to other egos.

A1) I learned this the hard way, as in n.j. this goes hand In hand with do not repot and style in the same year.

a1b) I thought following a repot, the tree should go in semi/full shade for some time, thanx for correcting me on that.
         My soil mix is composed of argulite (local lava/brick,, like rock), crushed lava, high fired clay, ground up roots and peat(10% organic total), sand, and mycohorrizae.

2) while I will not say I'm a great wirer, I am competent at wiring, but I could definitely use experience on advanced wiring techniques Also, I need help making guy wires, I know basics but advanced use of guy wires is experience I could definitely use.
 
The rest I'll cover tomorrow, but Antony, what did you mean by 'Come in and say what you would like to fill in the blanks on.'

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Anthony

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Re: Letter to Joshua Hanzman
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2013, 03:58 AM »
Joshua,

bright ,would be shade, but no sunlight. I have the use of a north light facing area, no sunlight, but very bright.
Please note, I live in the Caribbean and our light is way stronger than NJ.
As with all of this test,test, test and test on expendables [ part of the Horticultural section 3 to 5 years.]

As soil goes, ask around your area for what works, and then see if it works for you.

What I was saying was, what do you want to know ?

I studied Classical Literature,sometimes my mind wanders off into weird/poetic english, apologies.

I will only be able to help with very, very basic information as I am in a Tropical zone [ no chance of frost ]
Hopefully, some of the others will chime in as you ask.
Good Day
Anthony
 

Joshua Hanzman

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« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2013, 11:26 PM »
Oh ok, again thank you for this. Classical literature eh, to prune or not to prune that is the question! ;D

No, but really my questions really are when to do what to a tree and how to do it. Besides that  I would like to make my own fertiliser, so I would to see some recipes. I live near Sandy hook which is essentially open ocean, so I have access to unlimited seaweed, which I have heard helps, I could easily also go to a commercial Fisher and get some pre-emulsified fish ;)

Other major questions I have are what different techniques there are for major bends, how is rebar used; also, design wise, a lot of times I have an image in my mind, but do not know the techniques necessary to accomplish what I want, I feel like I'm selling the tree short sometimes...
Also, the use of negative space is important, but how are the decisions made. The problem answering these questions is the problem with dealing with living things, each "canvas" is drastically different therefore the only way I feel to learn the deeper design truths of bonsai is to watch a professional do it and see how he explains why he does what he does.
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Anthony

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Re: Letter to Joshua Hanzman
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2013, 06:24 AM »
Joshua,

a few points -

[1] It is often wise when finding a site, such as this to first read through as much of the forums as you can, take notes and at a later date, you will know which questions [ you have ] that still need to be asked.

[2] As to fertilisers, are you growing for fatter trunks ?
Or are you growing for refinement ?

See on this forum, on the topic of fertilisers - Fall Fertilisation.

The seaweed, or fish or composted oil meal would probably be best with trees in the stages of refinement, not trunk fattening.

[3] As Design goes - negative spaces - the books I suggested, you can use a soft pencil, and tracing paper. Trace only the masses, and just observe.
If after you try, and still don't understand, simply return here and ask for help.
Good Day
Anthony

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