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Re: Fall fertilization of bonsai
« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2011, 07:44 PM »
Wayne, you're a good influence.  More fertilizer cakes put out today, and watered with seaweed.  If the weather holds out I might mix up a new batch of fertilizer to see if I can get some dried before it gets too cold.  I only have enough dried for 2 more rounds, I think.
 

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Re: Fall fertilization of bonsai
« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2011, 08:19 PM »
I agree.  I too put back out my cakes after reading this, and watered with seaweed as well today.  Plus, I just finished reading the Ponderosa Pine book (from Stone Lantern ;) ), and it says to fertilize heavily during the fall.  So it all came together it seems.
 

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Re: Fall fertilization of bonsai
« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2011, 08:56 PM »
Ponderosa Pine book (from Stone Lantern ;) )[/quote]
what book...i was just looking on their website and i dont see it...
 

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Re: Fall fertilization of bonsai
« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2011, 09:07 PM »
Ponderosa Pines as Bonsai by Larry Jackel.  ABS lists it as "currently out of stock, to be reprinted".
 

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Re: Fall fertilization of bonsai
« Reply #19 on: October 04, 2011, 09:15 PM »
Fall fertilization is to build bud strength for spring.
 

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Re: Fall fertilization of bonsai
« Reply #20 on: October 04, 2011, 09:33 PM »
I got the book from Andy Smith at Golden Arrow Bonsai back in the spring, but no longer see it listed on his website. Might be worth checking with him anyway...
 

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Re: Fall fertilization of bonsai
« Reply #21 on: October 04, 2011, 09:41 PM »
Yes, I think I got some of the last stash from Stone Lantern.  I went back to the website about 1-2weeks scrolling thru the book section and it was gone.  So hopefully Andy will have some.  Wayne, do you know if more are becoming available? 
 

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Re: Fall fertilization of bonsai
« Reply #22 on: October 04, 2011, 09:56 PM »
Wayne, do you know if more are becoming available? 

Wayne here.  Probably not the one you're referring to, but I'll answer for you.

Nope.  Haven't a clue.  You might want to ask Wayne Schoech [pronounced Shay I hear].  He's @ stonelantern.  Tell him I said hey.  (We've never met.)

Fall fertilization is to build bud strength for spring.

Thanks for enduring the off-topic Ponderosa/StoneLantern talk ...and trying to bring things back on-topic.  (Seems your answers have been a little terse lately.  Concise may be a better word.)  A 0-10-10 denier then?
 

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Re: Fall fertilization of bonsai
« Reply #23 on: October 05, 2011, 08:13 AM »
I use organic pooh balls and 15-12-8 (or 13-13-13) osmocote on everything, the Japanese maples still have it on them and they are just starting to turn.

I get terse when I am cranky.
 

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Re: Fall fertilization of bonsai
« Reply #24 on: October 05, 2011, 08:27 AM »
Hi All
Here in the south having relatively mild winters here I haven't paid much attention to this myth. I use the same fertilizers all year except for flowering bonsai then I adjust for them. I do kinda follow the old gardeners addage " Shoots, Roots, Flowers and Fruits". I retrospect to N/P/K values.

MT

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Re: Fall fertilization of bonsai
« Reply #25 on: October 05, 2011, 11:39 AM »
My bad Wayne.  Please excuse my mistake.  Sorry for the confusion to the thread.
 

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Re: Fall fertilization of bonsai
« Reply #26 on: October 13, 2011, 03:05 PM »
Plantmonky: I heard that it takes over a year for bonemeal to become available to a plant nutritionaly after its been fertilized with it. It has to breakdown in the soil further. Has anyone else heard of this?
 

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Re: Fall fertilization of bonsai
« Reply #27 on: October 13, 2011, 04:54 PM »
Elliot, some s avaiable fairly quickly (fine stuff)some probably takes longer to breakdown (coarse stuff). You need to have happy microbes in your soil, to break dwn that which is insoluble, this and the other components of your mix should help. Why?
 

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Re: Fall fertilization of bonsai
« Reply #28 on: October 14, 2011, 11:38 PM »
well, if it really takes a year for bonemeal to be available to your tree, then putting some down for this fall wont do you any good. It would help for next year. Maybe putting down something that's more immediately available for this year PLUS some bonemeal for next year would be the way to go if using bonemeal. I don't use bonemeal currently, but the non availability of it thing was something I remember hearing at a club demo a few years back. Just trying to see if what I remember is accurate or if I'm remembering wrong. After all, I didn't start breathing till I was 6 years old ;D
 

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Re: Fall fertilization of bonsai
« Reply #29 on: October 20, 2011, 10:16 PM »
Read the post, some works quickly, some takes a long time. I contacted Larry about the PPine Book, he says a second printing is in the works and he will check with the publisher to find current copies. I will let you know what I hear.

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