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jlushious

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Elm Cuttings
« on: August 01, 2014, 10:26 AM »
Does anyone have experience with rooting elm cuttings? There is a nice variety of elm (discovery elm) that does well in my climate (Calgary) that I can get some cuttings from. Just wondering if there are any tips/suggestions or if I just do the usual routine for cuttings.
 

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Re: Elm Cuttings
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2014, 03:10 PM »
Start them earlier than August . Look at making root cuttings. The henus tenbs to root at the drop of a hat.
 

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Re: Elm Cuttings
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2014, 03:21 PM »
Thanks!
 

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Re: Elm Cuttings
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2014, 10:49 AM »
Iphone again: henus=Genus; tenbs=tends
 

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Re: Elm Cuttings
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2014, 02:58 AM »
Good info, I wondered about this since I have some nice yatsabusa, catlin and corticosa varieties that I want to use as mother plants :)

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Re: Elm Cuttings
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2014, 07:04 AM »
  Almost all of my elms in development have baby elms grown from cuttings in their containers. When I cut something off I just stick it right in with the parent tree. That way I know what it is and they it gets to be by it's mommy. In the spring at repot time I'll separate them and they go off on their own. If I used hormone they would probably all take but since I don't I still get a 70% survival rate. They're elms after all.
 

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Re: Elm Cuttings
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2014, 12:53 PM »
Do you cut off all of the leaves when you take cuttings? Not just for elm, but for other species as well. There seems to be conflicting information on this one. Particularly for semi-hardwood cuttings.
 

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Re: Elm Cuttings
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2014, 01:27 PM »
Softwood and semihardwood cuttings I leave as many leaves as I feel appropriate for the size of cutting.  2-4 usually.  For hardwood cuttings, they're usually taken later and the leaves may've already dropped.

Am I thinking about this right?
 

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Re: Elm Cuttings
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2014, 09:22 PM »
  The ones I do are semi hardwood. I leave maybe up to 6 leaves but no more because the leaves lose moisture through transpiration. I've don't know about cutting all of the leaves off.
 

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Re: Elm Cuttings
« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2014, 09:30 PM »
I usually reduce the surface area of the leaves on my cuttings, either by cutting big leaves in half, and/or reducing the number of leaves.  In 1997 I bought a corkbark Elm at Bonsai Northwest in Seattle.  I've long since sold it, but have made numerous root cuttings from it.  Here's one that is developing some character in the ground.  Might be an interesting shohin one day.  Good luck with yours.
 

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Re: Elm Cuttings
« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2014, 12:22 PM »
I've definitely heard root cuttings are the way to go with elms, but I am not sure I can dig up any roots on the source tree (it's HUGE).

I picked up the propagation bible from the library yesterday (Michael Dirr's) and it has lots of info, slightly different techniques for different elm species though, but all great info (thanks to John Kirby and others for mentioning this book a few times, it's so helpful!).
 

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Re: Elm Cuttings
« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2014, 02:33 PM »
Took about 20 around 2 days after this started.

Some inside. Died

Some outside. The shortest ones, below the edge of the pot and wind are ok.

Though they are im a shady corner im the stairway.
 

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Re: Elm Cuttings
« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2014, 08:00 AM »
One rooted for sure. Other may have too. But no growth.
The rest of the elms were just new shoots. This one with old wood made it!
More stored energy?

A peice of Linden top pot left. Couldnt help for the hell of it!

Crab bottom pot left. Redbud right. Also FTHOI.

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