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bwaynef

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Calidama
« on: June 06, 2010, 09:37 PM »
I've heard some left-coasters mention Cali-dama.  Apparently, its as close to a substitute for Akadama as anyone's willing to admit, and it comes from the states.  I've heard of the guy that makes it, but I've no way to contact him and I don't see it locally.

Does anyone know how to contact him, or any of the channels through which he regularly sells?  Any idea what is involved in creating it?
 

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Re: Calidama
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2010, 09:54 PM »
I've heard Ted Matson mention it a time or two, but not where to get it, or from whom.  Sorry.
 

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Re: Calidama
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2010, 08:22 AM »
I've heard Al Kepler mention it more than anyone else.  Glenn Van Winkle (???) or RipsGreenTree (of bonsaitalk fame) figured out how to make the stuff.  I don't have much more information than that tho.
 

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Re: Calidama
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2010, 04:36 PM »
Importing cat litter from Europe and repackaging it after rinsing off the pleasant fragrance?
 

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Re: Calidama
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2010, 06:38 PM »
I've heard some left-coasters mention Cali-dama.  Apparently, its as close to a substitute for Akadama as anyone's willing to admit, and it comes from the states.  I've heard of the guy that makes it, but I've no way to contact him and I don't see it locally.

Does anyone know how to contact him, or any of the channels through which he regularly sells?  Any idea what is involved in creating it?

i got it as a sample.  but i throw it out.  it is very hard and heavy and look like broken black rock.  it is nothing like akadama at all.
Lava or pumice is better material to use.
 

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Re: Calidama
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2010, 11:34 AM »

i got it as a sample.  but i throw it out.  it is very hard and heavy and look like broken black rock.  it is nothing like akadama at all.
Lava or pumice is better material to use.


Too bad you threw it out. You may have had the most recent stuff which is mixed equally with black lava that Glenn crushes also. The calidama is crushed California hardpan.  (http://hydro365.com/2009/07/131)

The clay subsoil is cemented with silica and is hard as stone. It is not a substitute for akadama being more a substitute for haydite. It can take as long as a week for a piece the size of a pea to become saturated with water, but once saturated it retains this moisture reserve for many days. It will not break down, EVER, and will outlast most soil components many times over. It looks just like haydite, being a brownish red in color similer to akadama. It does get darker once saturated and lightens while drying. Glenn sells the stuff himself and through a few channels like Royola Pacific, though I don't know how much he has at the moment. Glenn always has some for sale.

Some pictures of the stuff. The picture of the plate with all my soil components on it has calidama at 1:00 o'clock. If you wish to have Glenn's email contact me through PM.
« Last Edit: July 07, 2010, 11:37 AM by akeppler »
 

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Re: Calidama
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2010, 02:48 PM »
Thanks al.  PM sent.