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Re: Bonsai Fertilizer Cake Recipes
« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2011, 09:06 PM »
Dale, thanks for posting your story, and your recipe. One thing would be helpful: could you give us the quantities you use of each component? Thanks!
 

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Re: Bonsai Fertilizer Cake Recipes
« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2011, 09:27 PM »
Dale, thanks for posting your story, and your recipe. One thing would be helpful: could you give us the quantities you use of each component? Thanks!

I can't really do that. I always just mixed it in until it looked good and was right consistancy. The biggest help I can give is to mix the dry stuff first. Then mix the liquids and SLOWLY add liquids until the mix is the consistancy to pat out in trays. Just like mixing concrete. I used about 10 pounds of cheap flour to a small wheelbarrow to make the mix harden , like a cookie!
Matt might have a better track on how much of each.

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Re: Bonsai Fertilizer Cake Recipes
« Reply #17 on: March 24, 2011, 01:54 PM »
Hello, Everyone.
I started making Dale's recipe for fertilizer cakes and selling them on my web site last fall.  It is a dirty, stinky job, but I think this is the best way to fertilize your Bonsai.  They sold pretty good, as I am now out and planning to make more this weekend.  The hardest thing for me to do it to get them to dry before they start to mold.  If you would like more info take a look at www.thebonsaiden.com or e-mail me at matt@thebonsaiden.com
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Re: Bonsai Fertilizer Cake Recipes
« Reply #18 on: March 29, 2011, 03:45 PM »
When I worked for Brussell we would add a bit of sevin to the mix. 
 

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Re: Bonsai Fertilizer Cake Recipes
« Reply #19 on: March 30, 2011, 05:04 PM »
I thought about adding sevin to the mix as well.  Is this just to keep the bugs away?  Also worried about my dogs getting into it and getting sick.  They like to sneak in real slow, grab one or two and run behind the barn to devour there new snack.
 

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Re: Bonsai Fertilizer Cake Recipes
« Reply #20 on: March 30, 2011, 06:53 PM »
I thought about adding sevin to the mix as well.  Is this just to keep the bugs away?  Also worried about my dogs getting into it and getting sick.  They like to sneak in real slow, grab one or two and run behind the barn to devour there new snack.

Yes it is for the bugs.  As far as the dogs mine would eat a few now and then with no ill effect.  In the old days you would put  sevin all over the dogs for fleas and just think how much they ingested when they licked themselves.  You don't put that much sevin in the batch.
 

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Re: Bonsai Fertilizer Cake Recipes
« Reply #21 on: March 31, 2011, 07:05 PM »
As I mentioned in my original long post, I never used it because of the dogs cleaning them off the lower pots. but, I decided that a few possible maggots under the poo balls made no nevermind to me anyway even if I ever got them. Add it if you feel like it. By 'no ill effects' do you mean that it didn't kill them? :-\

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Re: Bonsai Fertilizer Cake Recipes
« Reply #22 on: April 01, 2011, 12:12 AM »
You put such a small amount in it not enough to hurt them.  Didn't you ever see people use it for fleas?  My landlord would cover his dog several times a summer with it and the dog lived a long life.  Didn't see it in your post, like you said long post,  didn't read it all. 
 

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Re: Bonsai Fertilizer Cake Recipes
« Reply #23 on: April 01, 2011, 08:06 AM »
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I worried about the attraction of flies and maggots so I thought of spraying the finished cakes with an insecticide or mixing in some “Sevin” but I found that my dogs find the cakes an exquisite snack and they disappear often from pots that are low to the ground.  Luckily I have had no problem with flies/maggots and they wouldn’t bother the trees if I did..

I have used Sevin when making mine, and my labrador did eat every cake I had out.  It probably did her no favors and I won't mix it in again, but I saw no apparent signs of damage caused by it.
 

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Re: Bonsai Fertilizer Cake Recipes
« Reply #24 on: April 01, 2011, 01:03 PM »
  Didn't see it in your post, like you said long post,  didn't read it all. 

T-town, glad it held your interest  ::)

Ok, it's official, it won't kill dogs, so, as I said before ( every time I've ever posted this recipe and heard the "add sevin" comment ), use it if you want, if you think you might be turned off by a possible maggot under one..  Bethatasitmay, I think the mix is terrific and far superior to anything else you can buy, especially the imported cakes which don't really have much in them and are expensive, and, I'm not sure which ones are even importable now? I notice on large tropicals that I've used the cakes on that the roots will actually grow up into the cakes.
 

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Re: Bonsai Fertilizer Cake Recipes
« Reply #25 on: April 02, 2011, 04:22 PM »
Before I move my trees into the basement for the winter I romove the cakes.  On almost all of my tropicals the roots have grown up into the fertilizer cake, and removing them is not so easy.  I have never used Sevin on or in the fertilizer mix and have never had a problem with bugs, flys, or, maggots.  If anyone is interested you can buy these cakes from www.thebonsaiden.com  
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Re: Bonsai Fertilizer Cake Recipes
« Reply #26 on: June 08, 2011, 02:05 PM »
Hello,
The Bonsai Den has a new formula with a better balanced N-P-K value in there fertilizer cakes.  Check it out at www.thebonsaiden.com or on our facebook page search The bonsai den.  These are organic cakes with a multitude of ingredients, I never have to fertilizer when I use these.   
 

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Re: Bonsai Fertilizer Cake Recipes
« Reply #27 on: June 29, 2011, 01:34 PM »
Don't forget to order your fertilizer cakes. You still need to feed in the summer, and this helps your trees prepare for the winter with strong roots, and even helps summer growth.  New balanced N-P-K of (3.5-3.5-3).  We also sell a premium soil mix of haydite, orchid bark, charcoal, and silica sand.  Check it out at www.thebonsaiden.com
Thanks
Matt@thebonsaiden.com
 

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Re: Bonsai Fertilizer Cake Recipes
« Reply #28 on: June 29, 2011, 02:35 PM »
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Re: Bonsai Fertilizer Cake Recipes
« Reply #29 on: June 30, 2011, 06:31 PM »
BSG, 
Sorry, I'm new to this forum and didn't know the rules. I hope I didn't cause any problems, won't happen again.
Thanks Matt.