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bonsaidad

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Re: bonsai experience
« Reply #30 on: August 13, 2009, 02:19 PM »
New smyrna area for now.
 

bonsaidad

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Re: bonsai experience
« Reply #31 on: August 13, 2009, 02:22 PM »
Gary thats one nice tree have you been growing it for the last couple of years or did you just get it?

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« Reply #32 on: August 13, 2009, 02:39 PM »
I have had that pine for 4 years from a 10 inch seedling. But, my growing skills have not been great in the past with jbp. Just now getting my soil culture figured out. I am using allot of expanded (sponge rock ) perlite to dry them out at night. Truly a unique plant for culture requirements. You will be able to get some bigger plants once you settle down in Fl. There are people on this site that will ship as well.

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Re: bonsai experience
« Reply #33 on: August 13, 2009, 07:31 PM »
Tonight I put on raffia which was soaked in water with two drops of superthrive all day. Going to be bending so don't want to take any chances. I like wrapping with wet raffia nice and tight and letting it dry overnight, on the bonsai that is. Seems to work well.
Raffia comes from the Raphia palm in Madagascar. So good trivia to know hey? Any palm readers out there? lol's  get it?

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Re: bonsai experience
« Reply #34 on: August 13, 2009, 09:49 PM »
Gary,
Good thread! I look forward to seeing where you take it.

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Re: bonsai experience
« Reply #35 on: August 14, 2009, 07:49 AM »
There is no agenda here Chris, no long term goals, no well planned charted course, just day to day bonsai stuff. No advertisements, no off the wall matters of fact, just primitive down to earth every day bonsai. No expected value of the product, no brown nosing or sucking up, just your hands, some wire, a victim, an idea and hopfully a bonsai. Now praise? That is always welcome! Thanks Chris and have a good day.

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Re: bonsai experience
« Reply #36 on: August 14, 2009, 10:18 AM »
When I wire, the purpose is to hold branches so I do not go by the books at times. Iam not a dentist, I am a gardner.

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Re: bonsai experience
« Reply #37 on: August 14, 2009, 10:40 AM »
Nice start  ;D

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« Reply #38 on: August 14, 2009, 04:53 PM »
There is no agenda here Chris, no long term goals, no well planned charted course, just day to day bonsai stuff. No advertisements, no off the wall matters of fact, just primitive down to earth every day bonsai. No expected value of the product, no brown nosing or sucking up, just your hands, some wire, a victim, an idea and hopfully a bonsai. Now praise? That is always welcome! Thanks Chris and have a good day.

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Since I am working so hard I get a little free rope right? I left out one. No 'Mother Hen' moderators to contend with. Congrats Bonsai Study, this is the longest stint I ever had without some sort of editing or ban threat as of late.

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Re: bonsai experience
« Reply #39 on: August 17, 2009, 04:36 AM »
Gary

Would that trunk withstand an even greater bend?

I think you could push it a lot further and end with a nicer tree...

Jerry.
 

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Re: bonsai experience
« Reply #40 on: August 18, 2009, 12:06 AM »
Heres my Yaupon Holly from nursery stock I got in June. First pic is after I took off alot off branches. The next pics are after I defoiliated and wired.I left some of the very new growth on just to monitor its growth as time goes by. This is my first time doing this. This will be and has been a learning experience for me. Any comments /suggestions are always welcome. Thanks, Joe
 

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« Reply #41 on: August 18, 2009, 11:45 AM »
It doesn't look like your wire is doing much bending. I know this species can be brittle though, so I understand. My point is, that wiring a big branch that won't bend is a waste of wire. You should figure out which big branches are part of your design, and cut the rest off. Feed heavily, and wire the new growth while it is still fresh.
This species is also readily available and cheap, so I would suggest using a rough 6:1 ratio. 6 being trunk height, and 1 being trunk width. I think you will find that your tree will start to look better when it comes into better proportions. You can always go out and get another yaupon holly that can be styled into something taller.
 

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Re: bonsai experience
« Reply #42 on: August 18, 2009, 02:57 PM »
Gary,
OK, I want to get back to the little pine. Gary, why do you think the gentle curve that you have placed in the trunk of this little tree will ever result in a good bonsai? As a matter of discussion, I don't really understand why you put raffia on the tree at all, the bend is gentle enough that good wire would have protected it just fine.

I am not trying to dust up a storm, just trying to see the logic?

John
 

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Re: bonsai experience
« Reply #43 on: August 18, 2009, 05:46 PM »
Just curious, but what are your long term plans for this tree, right now I can't see where you're going.

Keep it green,
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Re: bonsai experience
« Reply #44 on: August 18, 2009, 11:46 PM »
Thanks for the replies Noissee and Pine Queen. I will try to sketch the tree. I have the Holly in 100% Turface. I will be getting some fertilizer soon. I was told that this plant should be fertilized from Sring - Fall. The wiring I did was my first. The larger middle branch did bend quite easily,as did the others that I wired. Even after I wired it , I still could see different possibilities with it. I had an Oak style in mind almost like a broom style. I figured I would wait until the leaves have come back to see what  kind of growth I have and maybe how to proceed. I think I wil get another Holly this week.
   Pine Queen, I dont understand your virt. Can you explain it to me please? Thanks, Joe