Author Topic: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style  (Read 68644 times)

DorianJF

  • Hero Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 504
  • Thanked: 10 times
  • Easy Going Bonsai
Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #60 on: February 25, 2015, 04:31 AM »
Thanks Fredman

That is one stunning tree.  Going to be following that to see how it develops.
 

DorianJF

  • Hero Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 504
  • Thanked: 10 times
  • Easy Going Bonsai
Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #61 on: July 23, 2015, 05:47 AM »
So it has been an exceptionally mild winter for us this year where I stay in Johannesburg South Africa

I have yet to see the temperature drop below 0 Celsius which is the norm for this time of year.  Due to this, the acacia has not lost all its leaves as its supposed to over winter.

I was told that Acacia bonsai need to loose all their leaves as it allows the tree to rest and then start working on the new buds.  If the Acacia do not not get this opportunity then the growth during the growing season is particularly poor.

So I went ahead and defoliated the tree.

Over and above that, the tree continuously wants to shoot new buds right at the base of the tree.  I keep my eye on it everyday to ensure that they are broken off.
 

DorianJF

  • Hero Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 504
  • Thanked: 10 times
  • Easy Going Bonsai
Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #62 on: September 01, 2015, 06:22 AM »
Just a quick update on the Acacia

I removed the wiring and tape off the Acacia this past weekend.  Luckily I did as the wire had just started to bite into the bark.  It is very feint so hopefully it will grow out in the next season or 2.  The one thing I will not use again is the electrical tape.  It does not allow the trunk to breathe and this species of Acacia has a very dark sap.  This has stained the trunk but I am hoping that it will lighten up with being in the sun.

The bends have held nicely.  On one of the bends, the bend actually split but it is still growing and I think it will be okay.

I am not planning on putting it into a smaller pot but leaving it to grow over the next season.  I will work on the canopy though and try to keep it to the minimum but get a better shape to it.  May have to do some wiring on the canopy.
 

fredman

  • Jr. Forum Member
  • **
  • Posts: 63
Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #63 on: September 02, 2015, 06:03 PM »
Looking good Dorian. Yeah wont do the tape again either. It will recover but I don't like smothering the poor tree.
Yeah when you leave it in that pot, the growth will be robust with long internodes. you'll have to keep an eye on it without trimming it to frequently. Leaves provide food for roots.... ;)
Please show when you wired the top. Good luck mate  8)
 

DorianJF

  • Hero Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 504
  • Thanked: 10 times
  • Easy Going Bonsai
Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #64 on: September 03, 2015, 07:05 AM »
Thanks Fredman

Appreciate the feedback.

Most definitely going to keep an eye on the canopy.  Really do not want long internodes.  Luckily there are many areas for buds to break so I think there will be much cutting and regrowing due to the nature of the tree.
 

fredman

  • Jr. Forum Member
  • **
  • Posts: 63
Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #65 on: September 04, 2015, 05:52 AM »
Yeah when it leafs, ;) let it grow until they harden off before cutting back...
 

fredman

  • Jr. Forum Member
  • **
  • Posts: 63
Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #66 on: September 04, 2015, 07:30 AM »
Forgot to ask you... Has your friends returned yet? Did they see the tree after you Picassoed it?
This certainly must be the most unusual thorntree bonsai out there. You need to be congratulated for your bravery. Love it or hate it....it certainly is one of a kind  ;)
 

DorianJF

  • Hero Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 504
  • Thanked: 10 times
  • Easy Going Bonsai
Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #67 on: September 04, 2015, 08:05 AM »
Thanks once again for the great feedback.  Most definitely one of kind this acacia.

Luckily they did get to see it.  They came back for a short while to finalise some things and came round before they flew out again.

I also keep them up to date with posting pictures of the progress etc on my Bonsai Facebook page.

They definitely love it and told me that they are glad that I will look after it for them.
 

Herman

  • Sr. Forum Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 399
  • hardiness zone 9a, AHS heat zone 8
Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #68 on: September 08, 2015, 07:17 AM »
Looking good!

I agree, wait until the new growth hardens off then cut leaving two buds on each branch, I see the top most branch croaked over winter, that's a sweet thorn for you :),

you didn't get frost?? I had -8 Celsius this winter...lost two red ivorys, quite a few figs, my wife's wild pride of india, brush cherries, a mountain karee and a few scotias...

I'm going to have to re think my collection, since most stuff not cold hardy died I have more space open now for cold hardy stuff like wild olives :) saw a few that I want to go dig up soon...already dug up a huge celtis Africana about 20m from my front door

best regards
Herman
 

DorianJF

  • Hero Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 504
  • Thanked: 10 times
  • Easy Going Bonsai
Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #69 on: September 08, 2015, 09:41 AM »
Hey Herman

Actually the top branch did not die.  I cut it short as I was not happy with the growth on that piece.  The idea is to bring the whole canopy slightly more upwards with another bend.

Yeah, really did not have frost this year.  I have a digital thermometer that measures outdoor and indoor temps and not once did I see it hit in the - degrees. But I am lucky that I live in a complex with a house above mine and tall walls all around.  That definitely does make a huge difference.

Luckily I did not loose one tree this winter (which is a first) but I am sure you must be devastated in loosing so many.

I dug up a Celtis Africana and 2 Ulmus Procera (English Elms) in August.  All of them have started to shoot buds which is a good thing.  I am running out of space for more trees.
 

Herman

  • Sr. Forum Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 399
  • hardiness zone 9a, AHS heat zone 8
Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #70 on: September 10, 2015, 04:09 AM »
we did not have enough space for all the trees inside the new house....so we took our most valuable tropical/ sub-tropical plants inside...the rest we protected as best we could... o well

most of them weren't stellar material anyway... except for my wife's wild pride of india and the red ivory trees

next winter we will be ready....building a 4x9 m greenhouse, and I put up a 6x12 m shade net a month ago

now just have to build lots of benches and then dig up enough to fill those benches.

when exactly did you cut that top branch?

best regards
Herman
 

DorianJF

  • Hero Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 504
  • Thanked: 10 times
  • Easy Going Bonsai
Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #71 on: September 10, 2015, 06:13 AM »
Glad you made plans for next winter.  -8 is not fun and games.  Also when you make space, its always so much fun to fill the space.

I cut the branch back when I did the unwiring - End August.

Not the best pic but that is how it looked just before I cut it.
 

Potawatomi13

  • Jr. Forum Member
  • **
  • Posts: 64
  • Thanked: 3 times
Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #72 on: October 02, 2015, 08:00 AM »
One thing I perhaps missed earlier is that clipping off the points of those nasty thorns makes life much less painful and wiring a much less ticklish job.  I do this on my citrus thorns.
 

DorianJF

  • Hero Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 504
  • Thanked: 10 times
  • Easy Going Bonsai
Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #73 on: October 02, 2015, 08:40 AM »
Definitely.

Those thorns can be a pest.  Luckily the few that are in the crown haven't done too much damage.

Just some new pics of how it is doing.  Loads of new buds breaking out all over the trunk so I really have to watch them and continuously break them off. 
 

DorianJF

  • Hero Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 504
  • Thanked: 10 times
  • Easy Going Bonsai
Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #74 on: October 11, 2015, 09:39 AM »
The time has come to do some cutting of the crown - What was said right in the beginning??? time to Wiff the crown - LMAO

It has been growing nicely and the tree is very healthy.  I cut back 3 of the longest new shoots.

At the rate this is growing, I could actually put it into a pot now but I will leave it and see if the trunk will thicken up.

I do not think that the angle that I took the photos from is the correct front.  I will need to have a good look at it from all angles and decide.