Author Topic: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style  (Read 67895 times)

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Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #30 on: February 19, 2015, 10:34 AM »
That new virt looks very nice. You could probably go a bunch of different ways but as you see, the cutback has to be drastic but well thought out.
 

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Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #31 on: February 19, 2015, 12:23 PM »
Thanks TM

Going to work on it this weekend.  Eventually going to a bonsai club meeting to see if I enjoy it (sure I will)

So as soon as I am back from there, will get stuck in.

 

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Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #32 on: February 19, 2015, 06:11 PM »
Take it with you Dorian. You will definitely shake up that place....  ;)
 

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Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #33 on: February 20, 2015, 01:18 AM »
 ;D ;D ;D

I definitely plan to do that but the main one I am taking along is my baobab.  The speaker is a expert on working on this species and I have one that I have left to grow for the last 9 years to really try to thicken up the trunk.

Now I am hoping that he will be able to give advice on how to cut it down to size and get some branch structure on it.

 

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Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #34 on: February 20, 2015, 03:14 AM »
Hi Dorian,

Which club will you be joining? EBS?

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Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #35 on: February 20, 2015, 04:01 AM »
Hi Herman

I am going to Mikabu Bonsai in Midrand.  Do you know of them?

Who is EBS?
 

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Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #36 on: February 22, 2015, 01:52 PM »
Are we talkin wifin individual branches on the crown?

Or guy wiring the whole thing?

I think individual wires are needed yes?

Put some movement in those branches.  I like where this is headed!

I Forgot about the princess!

Sorce

 

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Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #37 on: February 23, 2015, 02:04 AM »
Thanks Sorce

Will definitely have to do individual wiring.  Did not get to it over this weekend but have to do it soon.

I was advised that I need to be very careful with this species as over the winter months there is huge die back on the branches.
 

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Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #38 on: February 23, 2015, 02:25 AM »
Hi Dorian,

EBS is eastern bonsai society,

Mikibu bonsai, that's Jonathan's nursery, the club that uses his premises is called Midway bonsai kai and is not run by Jonathan although he is the founder.

yes I know Jonathan, awesome guy, he's a bit on the quiet side but he knows what he's doing, I also want to join that club but I'm way too busy on weekends to join there. They seem very strict where attendance is concerned, but the whole club is geared towards doing bonsai and learning new techniques. Not like a lot of other clubs where it's one big tee party once a month

about your sweet thorn, you can cut back now...there's still enough time left for it to push one last flush of growth, If you are unsure though rather give it a slight trim now to balance the energy and then a hard pruning in spring when the buds move. Also wire it when it is actively growing to prevent it from killing off any branches,

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Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #39 on: February 23, 2015, 02:44 AM »
Hi Herman

Yeah, that is correct, Midway bonsai kai.  Jonathan was most welcoming and helpful as were the rest of the people there.

Not so sure about the strictness of attendance as there were 2 guys that came where they all said they hadn't seem them for ages but glad they were there again.  But then it was only my first meeting so cannot say for sure.

They are definitely geared towards working on bonsai.  Everyone just wants to jump in and assist with anyone's trees but not in a way that you feel they are taking over.  I took my Baobab and Natal ficus along and the guys definitely helped me in the right direction.

With regards to the Sweet thorn, there is loads of new growth so have to get stuck in.  Maybe if I get a gap this afternoon with try to do some work on it.



 

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Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #40 on: February 23, 2015, 09:18 PM »
Dorian. Dieback is only possible if you cut at the wrong time of year, or if you cut to late before winter. At least 6 weeks before winter and you will be safe. If it is notorious for dying back it will throw a branch for other reasons. Some trees just does that. Nothing you can do to control that.... ;)
 

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Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #41 on: February 23, 2015, 09:35 PM »
Dorian. Dieback will happen if you cut at the wrong time of year, or if you cut to late before winter. At least 6 weeks before winter and you will be safe. Once it has pushed new growth that branch wont die back.
 If it is notorious for dying back it will throw a branch for other reasons. Some trees just does that. Mostly they do that not because of anything we did to it .... ;) Its all about balancing its energy like Herman said.
I suppose us people trees are like that to. We sacrifice something here when we're under stress, in order to get something better there.... ;D
 

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Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #42 on: February 24, 2015, 01:15 AM »
Thanks for all the information.

I definitely have to get stuck in.  Autumn is around the corner so want to get it done.

Watch this space
 

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Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #43 on: February 24, 2015, 05:29 AM »
Dorian,

I think if you add more movement will look better
Just my opinion (sample pic)
 

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Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #44 on: February 24, 2015, 05:40 AM »
Hi Joe

Thanks for that image.  It is a beauty.

Definitely going to be adding more movement into the trunk.  Problem it that the trunk is very brittle and after the first bends I put in, there was loads of cracking on the wood and that scared the hell out of me.

I undid all the wiring and then taped it up and rewired it and could do loads more bending on it although very cautiously.  With the guy wires that I have put in, I can slowly twist them tighter and hence pull them closer but that is only a few turns every now and then. 

Right now I am feeding it regularly to build up its strength and over this weekend I will work on the crown. I will also have a look and see if I can add in another guide wire or 2 on certain areas to get movement into them.