Author Topic: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style  (Read 68675 times)

tmmason10

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Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2015, 10:02 AM »
Haha nice one sorce!
 

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Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2015, 01:54 AM »
So I want to start working on the crown this weekend and already I am getting the giggles because of Sorce.

Dude, you rock.

Back to the tree.

I will have a decent look at the canopy before doing some cutting.  Again it comes down to pure fear that to much action will damage or may even kill the tree (as per my JBP - If someone can help, please advise - http://bonsaistudygroup.com/japanese-black-pine-discussion/jbp-1-windswept-style/msg29485/#new)

But once I get working, I will take some pics and post the progress.

 

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Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2015, 05:42 AM »
Nah a sweet thorn is tough and a vigorous grower. As long as you cut above a node the tree will keep growing from that. That is the way you reduce and fill the canopy. Keep cutting above buds to create taper and ramification. Always choose a bud that is already in the right direction....  ;)
 

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Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #18 on: February 14, 2015, 07:57 AM »
So I wifed the crown today.

Pic 1 Before
Pic 2 After

Thoughts?
 

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Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2015, 09:04 AM »
Haha I made a new word. Any pics from the desired viewing angle?
 

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Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #20 on: February 14, 2015, 10:16 AM »
Hi sorry about that.

Just had 5 hours of loadshedding (that is where our electricity is off because the countries power supplier cannot supply enough power to the country.  >:()

So busy posting pics all over the place and forgot to post those.

Your thoughts.
 

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Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #21 on: February 14, 2015, 04:06 PM »
Ah the damn load shedding....  >:( >:( >:( (almost said the incompetent bastards)
Join the rest and get your generator mate  ;)

Oh almost forgot we talking bonsai. You need to cut shorter on the branches  :P
I have the same problem. Don't want to take away to much, but you have to be brave and see the long-term picture. You are starting from scratch and you want to build real taper. Sacrificing now will give huge rewards in the end.  Cut after the first node start building from there.
You need to get in touch with a local that is familiar with Acacia to set your nerves at ease.  ;D What you don't want is long internodes, even if it means starving the tree.
 

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Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #22 on: February 14, 2015, 05:00 PM »
This is along the lines of the wiring I was suggesting. Literati tend to have sparser foliage so a late trim would be needed. The branches should flow in design with the curves of the trunk. Just a thought, I like this front but tough to tell without seeing it i person.
 

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Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2015, 08:03 PM »
Very good virt. Will work well I think. Its a long term project Dorian especially with a sweet thorn. Its growth habit is long internodes, and you have to contain that to achieve the above. Less soil, food, water and frequent trimming. Its a fine line that I really struggle with, because that is opposite to what we normally do ...... :P
 Hopefully the more experience people will give some input....  ;)
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Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #24 on: February 16, 2015, 01:33 AM »
Thanks for all the feedback and suggestions.

I thought I was speaking to the experts.  Way more advice then anybody else so really appreciate it.

I like the virt.  Definitely does work.  I am going to post this on a South African Bonsai Page and see if anyone has worked more in detail with this type of acacia. (Just to put my mind at ease)

Exactly like you said FM.  What we are doing is the exact opposite of normal.

 

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Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #25 on: February 17, 2015, 09:21 AM »
So I definitely need to cut more.  The experts are right.  Thanks FM and TM.

I was given another virt to look at.  Your thoughts on this?
 

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Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #26 on: February 17, 2015, 03:13 PM »
Yeah it looks great Dorian. Most important is to decide precisely what you want and keep working towards it. The two together shows the need for a drastic cutback/wire, to achieve that taper.
Good luck with that, and don't be afraid to cut back hard.  :o
Please post a pic after the haircut...... 8)
 

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Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #27 on: February 18, 2015, 02:00 AM »
Thanks FM.

I also have to take into consideration the bends on the trunk that I have to still work on.

Ouch my head is aching with all these thoughts.   ;D

Will have to spend some long hard time looking at this and then proceed.

The good news is that it is very healthy.  There are loads of little shots starting to form on the bottom part of the trunk.

Am I correct in saying that I should be breaking those off to ensure that energy and growth is pushed back to the top of the tree?
 

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Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #28 on: February 18, 2015, 04:58 AM »
jip, break those off.
 

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Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #29 on: February 18, 2015, 05:47 AM »
Ah Herman is on line. Just the man I was thinking of. He can be of great help to you locally.
Yeah keep the trunk clean at all times. You want the oomph in the top.
I'm afraid I'm of almost no use when it comes to styling Literati.