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DorianJF

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Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« on: January 20, 2015, 07:26 AM »
Hi All

My friends are going over to New Zealand for 6 months and they have asked me to try and bonsai a Sweet Thorn Tree (Acacia Karoo) for them. This Acacia has huge sentimental value to them as a family and they do not want to loose the tree.

Due to the way the tree has grown and died back I see very little else that I can do with this except try a Bunjin style on the tree.

Right now I have it in a pot to let the tree settle as they had removed it from the pot and brought it over 400 miles to me in a plastic bag (pot was too big to put into the car with all the luggage)

Now I am doing loads of reading up on it but wonder if there is any advice on this forum.



So lets hear it.

 

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Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2015, 07:33 AM »
There are many branches that have died close to the base of the tree that I will Jin

Also the foliage at the top needs to be thinned out and then wired after I have done the initial bending on the trunk.

I am thinking of doing the bending of the trunk now and leaving the trimming till spring (September 2015)

 

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Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2015, 04:08 PM »
Dorian here is something to aim for....

https://scontent-a-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10906131_926962597328617_5698788565152889880_n.jpg?oh=2d88ae9a89410299163d90a6e870d72b&oe=555D134E


You can spend a few seasons bending the branches and another few to develop the top. By that time they might have forgotten they had a tree  ;)
« Last Edit: February 04, 2015, 04:11 PM by fredman »
 

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Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2015, 01:20 AM »
Thanks Fred.

That is stunning.

Yeah, I knew when I started this that it is going to take many years.  I have a feeling that they will have enjoy their 6 months in NZ so much that they will not want to come back.

But I will do the best I can and if they come back, I will pass it on (WITH MANY INSTRUCTIONS  ;))
 

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Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2015, 03:53 PM »
Have you decided on what to do with this lanky tree Dorian?
 
Not easy to do something out of there without shortening it, and as you say they love their tree, so I wonder if they want it cut. Difficult to bend it into a Literati because you want sharp bends that looks natural. This tree has hard wood that wont bend that easy, let alone a sharp natural looking bend.
It however still is a youngish tree that can be manipulated. You have your work cut out on this one mate.
 

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Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2015, 11:17 AM »
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That is stunning.

Yeah.  It's nice . . . and it's also a PINE.

The Acacia is MUCH to thin, and MUCH too tall.  Taken together, there's little hope. 

If it we mine, I'd chop it just above those tiny green branchlets lower down, then let them develop.  And Hope.
 

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Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2015, 11:56 PM »
Yeah that's my idea to. Its way to lanky. To achieve something even close to the pine will take a looong time and chopping it now will put it back even more. Its a tough one. Sweet thorn is also one of the last of the Acacias to choose as a bonsai. It has the growth habit of pushing those long shoots, and cutting them sets the growth back. That's why i'm interested to hear what the plan is.....
Maybe start the bending now and leave the top while it grows. It can be chopped later. Maybe chop and go for another style?  :-\
 

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Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2015, 05:19 AM »
Honestly....  I do not think that whatever I do will really achieve greatness with this tree.  But as long as I try something with it, it is better then nothing.  I do agree that it is not the best specimen to work with.  It is very lanky but I did some serious wiring on it this weekend and hopefully it is a start.  I do not want to chop it back in fear of killing the tree.

The wood is actually quite brittle and I tapped it up before putting the bends in as I could hear it cracking without it.  I think once it starts to thicken and harden up that it will be a bugger to bend

I put in some guy wires and will slowly tighten those up.  I think that is will do till spring comes round in Sept.  I will continue to feed it to strengthen it up and will watch the growth habit on the canopy to see how it goes.


 

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Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2015, 02:29 PM »
WoW that is the weirdest sweet thorn  I have ever seen  ;) Nice going on the bending Dorian. An Acacia even of that age is a challenge to bend. Did it bend easier when you taped it up? Could you still hear cracking?
You don't have to finish a bend in one go hey. To achieve a sharp bend you might do it over a longer period. Bit by bit.... I think  8)
 

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Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2015, 11:02 PM »
Definitely weird looking. ????. Thanks for the compliment.
It was easier to bend after I had taped it up but not easy.  I really struggle to work with raffia and I find electrical tape easier and it allows me to bind it much tighter around the trunk.

I could still hear cracking but luckily it was very little and I worked very slowly on the bends. Also with me putting in the guy wires it helped with the bending.

No more bending on this though till spring.

I also pinched off the growing points to see how the tree reacts and grows
 

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Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2015, 01:01 AM »
Definitely weird looking. ????.
So putting in emoticons via the app makes it something else.   ;D

Should of been

Definitely weird looking  ;)
 

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Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2015, 11:54 AM »
I think I would have personally wifed the crown down as well too. Especially if it is a brittle species that way I did it before the branches thickened.
 

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Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2015, 03:26 PM »
Ha Ha agreed Dorian.
I agree its time to do some work on the canopy. Now is a good time to cut and bend. It will bud well as long as you cut above a shoot. Its a vigorous grower. If you leave it the top shoots will thicken quickly and the whole thing will be out of proportion.
It also gives you a head start to build the canopy.....  ;)
 

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Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2015, 04:43 AM »
wifed the crown down

Is that the same as wedding a princess?  ???  :)  ;)

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Re: Acacia Karoo - Sweet Thorn - Bunjin Style
« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2015, 06:33 AM »
Wahahahahahaha Sorce

Brilliant