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Joshua Hanzman

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my 6 chojubai from telperion arrived!
« on: March 15, 2014, 02:23 PM »
and they are awesome, telperion had them in what looks to be a 60-40 pumice to humus mix, and had them semi-bare rooted, but they arrived in good shape and already popping out with flowers and leaves. I potted them up and put one under a tile,

do you think the tile will grow nebari like it does with maples etc? I'll post some pictures when I finish potting them and wiring an elm that needs wiring, and cleaning out a couple junipers. I cut off some of the thicker roots that weren't consistent with a clean design and ended up with about thirty or so root cuttings =)

So BSG members will have first dibs on chojubai rooted cuttings for $10-15 bucks or so... First come first serve, just say reserve on this thread (reserve 1 or reserve 2) and 2 max to each person just to be fair to others.

But as far as the trees I wasn't sure if I should prune them now or wait a bit, they are already popping so I'm guessing i need to protect them from freezing, but as long as they are protected I'm guessing I should start pruning now, let me know what you guys think please...

On a side note, I am absolutely thrilled to join the ranks of chojubai owners, already they look so precious with they red flowers budding out and the leaves coming to life. And thank you all in advance for helping me and giving me advice, it is comforting knowing that I have intelligent experienced people who got my back :)

Last question, should I remove the flowers as soon as they show buds or wait till they mature or some other advice/technique I have no idea of?
 

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Re: my 6 chojubai from telperion arrived!
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2014, 08:37 AM »
I try not to miss anything. I missed this. :(

Nice.  Id take em off right away, unless you are planning a breeding program, but then again, thats "toker" talk. ;)

Are they all the same variety?

Take a picture first!
 

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Re: my 6 chojubai from telperion arrived!
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2014, 09:32 AM »
I agree, let's see some pictures. I'd probably be interested in a rooted cutting.
 

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« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2014, 09:30 PM »
I'll be taking pictures tomorrow, i lost one of them, and none of the root cuttings have grown yet, not sure why....

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Re: my 6 chojubai from telperion arrived!
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2014, 11:01 AM »
Joshua, I planted about 10 cuttings about 2-3wks ago and all are pushing out new growth.  I have them on a heating pad at 73F. 
 

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Re: my 6 chojubai from telperion arrived!
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2014, 01:48 PM »
Great success until I put them outside too early w temps going to 48-50.  Lost them all.  I should've known better to trust sensitive new roots to that temp.  Next yr...
 

Joshua Hanzman

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Re: my 6 chojubai from telperion arrived!
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2014, 08:16 PM »
I have had suprisingly good success, 90% of the root cuttings survived and took off running, a few have very bizarre movement to them which I hope will work well with chojubai. Now I just need to figure out how to ramify these suckers. Chis, I did the same thing with one of the 6 initial chojubai I got from Telp, placed it out in the cold to test the limits I guess, it lost all its leaves but it eventually pushed out new growth again. I'm hoping yours did the same?

Also, I noticed that I jumped the gun and excitedly dug up the rooted cuttings while the new shoots were white and they dried out quite quickly in the sun, however, most of the pencil thick and beyond threw out more suckers and have recovered. They are in the wettest part of my mister, and they seem to love the hell out of it!
 

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Re: my 6 chojubai from telperion arrived!
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2014, 05:33 AM »
Hi Joshua,

If you haven't already checked out the posts on Michael Hagedorn's blog about chujubai you might want to do it, some very good info there on chujubai culture and training

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Re: my 6 chojubai from telperion arrived!
« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2014, 10:41 AM »
I have had suprisingly good success, 90% of the root cuttings survived and took off running, a few have very bizarre movement to them which I hope will work well with chojubai. Now I just need to figure out how to ramify these suckers. Chis, I did the same thing with one of the 6 initial chojubai I got from Telp, placed it out in the cold to test the limits I guess, it lost all its leaves but it eventually pushed out new growth again. I'm hoping yours did the same?

Also, I noticed that I jumped the gun and excitedly dug up the rooted cuttings while the new shoots were white and they dried out quite quickly in the sun, however, most of the pencil thick and beyond threw out more suckers and have recovered. They are in the wettest part of my mister, and they seem to love the hell out of it!

Joshua, I agree, all my cuttings took.  But alas, no such luck, I lost all of them.  Darn cold spring here and poor judgement I must admit.
 

Joshua Hanzman

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Re: my 6 chojubai from telperion arrived!
« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2014, 10:37 PM »
herman I have seen his posts, in fact, his posts introduced me to the cultivar! It was love at first sight! I will be ordering the international issue in which Owen wrote about chojubai.

Chris, it happens! Ya just gotta learn from it right!? A funny "smack myself in the forehead" moment for me this spring was that I've always taken cuttings and then checked them every week or two for roots bc I find it so satisfying to finally see the white roots growing. So at some point this spring I realized, almost everytime I have felt a tug back from the cutting its bc it had young roots and I've been basically constantly ripping off the young roots to check out the progress. Who knows how many potential takers I've killed this way...

Welp, guess I'll learn from it and move on :)
 

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Re: my 6 chojubai from telperion arrived!
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2014, 02:17 PM »
LOL Joshua!  At least we're learning from our mistakes eh? ;)
 

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« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2014, 02:46 PM »
Haha yup! so true Chrisl, and that's arguably the most important thing =)

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Re: my 6 chojubai from telperion arrived!
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2014, 12:45 PM »
I wish we could easily get Chojubai in the UK - I'd be all over the prospect of cuttings like a rash !
 

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« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2014, 02:16 PM »
Frankly they are not easy to find here either, telperion is out for now until further notice and they're the only ones i know who had cheap unrefined ones. However Don Blackmond had some beautiful specimens still for sale, and Valavanis still has a few too, i think...

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Re: my 6 chojubai from telperion arrived!
« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2014, 09:16 PM »
Sorry couldn't take any more of this thread without a photo of a Chojubai, so I lifted these from Hagedorn's site.
http://crataegus.com/2013/03/25/the-joys-of-chojubai/
I feel better now.