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Kuchinashi (Gardenia jasminoides )
« on: February 20, 2014, 06:47 AM »
Shohin Kuchinashi about 4" tall and 8" long, 5"  nebari.. Repotted in to a slightly oversized old Koyo pot. Hard prune back in late summer led to tremendous leaf size reduction.
 

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Re: Kuchinashi (Gardenia jasminoides )
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2014, 07:37 AM »
OOOH!  Do tell!  Those leaves are TINY!  What do I need to know about growing Gardenia?
 

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Re: Kuchinashi (Gardenia jasminoides )
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2014, 07:39 AM »
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Re: Kuchinashi (Gardenia jasminoides )
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2014, 01:49 PM »
Leaf thinning for Rochester....
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Re: Kuchinashi (Gardenia jasminoides )
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2014, 08:37 PM »
Looking good  ;D.  My client's that will be in a shohin display (gauntlet thrown John(s))  ;) had 5 fruit but all matured and dropped last month.

For those of you looking to get Gardenia to set fruit, they like to have another gardenia's pollen.  Also, the flowers should ideally not get wet from rain or watering while they are open.  After pollination, no problem.  I believe excessive fertilization causes the fruit to drop early but not positive.

 

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Re: Kuchinashi (Gardenia jasminoides )
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2014, 08:56 PM »
Hmm, Gauntlet thrown? Mine is just going for a ride to Rochester so it can see that part of NY.
 

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Re: Kuchinashi (Gardenia jasminoides )
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2014, 09:50 PM »
Do Gardenia leaves reduce, or should I have started with a small-leafed one?
 

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Re: Kuchinashi (Gardenia jasminoides )
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2014, 11:02 PM »
They reduce, defoliate, de foliate. Must be strong to start.
 

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Re: Kuchinashi (Gardenia jasminoides )
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2014, 02:01 AM »
Really very nice! Will we see it in flower?
 

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Re: Kuchinashi (Gardenia jasminoides )
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2014, 07:24 AM »
John, just playing around ;D.  I know the quality of shohin in New England is quite high.  Looking forward to a great event in Rochester.
 

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Re: Kuchinashi (Gardenia jasminoides )
« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2014, 08:05 AM »
It will be fun, my good friend John Romano and I are throwing a few trees together to see if we can fill a box that won't embarrass us. There should be some nice displays. I have seen Frank C's display from New Jersey. Truly awesome, but really a mame display. Has put a lot of time and thought in to it.
 

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Re: Kuchinashi (Gardenia jasminoides )
« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2014, 08:29 AM »
I'm growing Gardenia 'Little Gem', which has a single white flower like many in Japan. One of my trees for beginner sales has four orange fruit! But the shape is not that good, too young. The others are still blossoming as well as my larger specimen.

Here is a photo of my larger Little Gem, but it looks much better now with three more years of training.
 

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Re: Kuchinashi (Gardenia jasminoides )
« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2014, 07:21 PM »
Gardenia fruit!
 

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Re: Kuchinashi (Gardenia jasminoides )
« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2014, 09:50 PM »
Looks good John.  I'm a sucker for a good Koyo pot.  Eager to see the rack in person.