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General Category => Fruiting and Flowering Bonsai Discussion => Topic started by: SpongeMann on February 07, 2015, 08:25 PM

Title: Hi does anyone know if this is a cherry bush?
Post by: SpongeMann on February 07, 2015, 08:25 PM
My friend gave me the bush she is like an Aunt. She is my mom's longtime friend  I always visit when I am in town. She says it's a cherry bush and that she picks them during summer. She has tall bushes all over the property. But she put some seeds in the pot and the grew out of the bottom.
Title: Re: Hi does anyone know if this is a cherry bush?
Post by: SpongeMann on February 07, 2015, 08:31 PM
There are four separate plants in the pot. I will separate  them when I get pots.I only pulled one out.
Title: Re: Hi does anyone know if this is a cherry bush?
Post by: SpongeMann on February 07, 2015, 08:35 PM
The pot is full of feeder roots.
Title: Re: Hi does anyone know if this is a cherry bush?
Post by: SpongeMann on February 07, 2015, 08:41 PM
I hope these are cherry.
Title: Re: Hi does anyone know if this is a cherry bush?
Post by: SpongeMann on February 07, 2015, 09:10 PM
Sorry about the pics  :-\ I dug up a sucker from a multi trunked mango tree  . It was at the bottom of a dying trunk it had enough roots to harvest it.
Title: Re: Hi does anyone know if this is a cherry bush?
Post by: J.Kent on February 08, 2015, 09:57 AM
It is NOT a cherry.
Title: Re: Hi does anyone know if this is a cherry bush?
Post by: SpongeMann on February 08, 2015, 10:49 AM
Thank you for the comment. But I am still searching. I am trying to get my friends phone number. So I can ask her where it's from. It has red Glands just like normal cherry but it doesn't have the serrated leaves.
Title: Re: Hi does anyone know if this is a cherry bush?
Post by: SpongeMann on February 17, 2015, 12:57 PM
Hi everyone I went back to Tampa and I stopped by my friends house. She told me she brought seeds from her tree in Puerto Rico. The Cherry tree nationalized  in Puerto Rico is the Barbados Cherry. I had to do some more research because I had already checked the Barbados cherry off the list. Mainly because the leaves varied. But I found a link that shows it that the leaves do vary. So case SOLVED...

http://gardeningsolutions.ifas.ufl.edu/mastergardener/outreach/plant_id/fruits_nuts/barbados_cherry.shtml (http://gardeningsolutions.ifas.ufl.edu/mastergardener/outreach/plant_id/fruits_nuts/barbados_cherry.shtml)
Title: Re: Hi does anyone know if this is a cherry bush?
Post by: SpongeMann on February 17, 2015, 01:08 PM
http://www.butterflyplantshop.com/plants-directory/836/malphigia-punicifolia-dwarf-barbados-cherry/ (http://www.butterflyplantshop.com/plants-directory/836/malphigia-punicifolia-dwarf-barbados-cherry/)
Title: Re: Hi does anyone know if this is a cherry bush?
Post by: SpongeMann on February 17, 2015, 01:12 PM
I don't know whether   I have the normal Barbados or  dwarf Cherry
Title: Re: Hi does anyone know if this is a cherry bush?
Post by: Leo in NE Illinois on February 23, 2015, 04:25 PM
Malpighia - Barbados cherry is on many lists of suitable trees for tropical bonsai. These should be good to work with.

If they were mine - I would keep them growing out, with little or no pruning, until I had trunks the diameter I would want in a finished bonsai. Two inch diameter minimum if my goal was a tree under 8 inches tall, Four inch diameter minimum for anything larger. So likely I would move to larger diameter, shallower pots. You might not have to wait long, some of your trunks look pretty good already. Enjoy the fruit in the mean time. It doesn't matter whether you have dwarf or not, the bonsai techniques will be the same. The only difference will be how easy it is to create the smallest sizes of bonsai. The normal form should make a thicker trunk quicker, which is better for "instant gratification"

If the flowers look like powder puffs, instead of having distinct petals, the other possibility would be one species or another of Eugenia. The Eugenia are related to guava and are just as edible. And just as Bonsai-able.

I like working with species that have edible fruit or other culinary use. "Eat your Bonsai''
Title: Re: Hi does anyone know if this is a cherry bush?
Post by: SpongeMann on February 28, 2015, 07:37 PM
Hey wants up Leo thanks for the pointer. I was getting ahead of myself brother.lol    I am going to take your advice and put all of them in the ground and  prune all of them back to start from there. The internode are very far apart and leggy, I dont think my friend  pruned them . I dont know much about Malpighia. I'll have to do some browsing this weekend. How's the weather out there. We had a few days of below freezing weather out here.
Title: Re: Hi does anyone know if this is a cherry bush?
Post by: Anthony on March 01, 2015, 12:04 PM
Jonathan,

not Malphigia e.

Try this -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenia_uniflora (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenia_uniflora)

Remember to thank Leo.
Good Day
Anthony
Title: Re: Hi does anyone know if this is a cherry bush?
Post by: SpongeMann on March 01, 2015, 08:08 PM
Hi Anthony, I hope all is well down there. You know what I was torn between the two species. All the research I have done pointed me to Surinam  and to Malpighia. Thanks fellas.
Title: Re: Hi does anyone know if this is a cherry bush?
Post by: vernG on March 05, 2015, 10:23 PM
Hi, If you never got the answer you were looking for... That is a surname cherry.
They were used as hedges in the days that I grew up in Tampa way back when. The fruit looks like a tiny pumpkin. It may be nearly black to red to orange in color. I have several that I grew from seed I got from a friend in Miami.
I hope that helps.
Vern
Title: Re: Hi does anyone know if this is a cherry bush?
Post by: SpongeMann on March 08, 2015, 01:46 AM
Thank you Vern  yes the fellas pointed me in the right direction.I lived in Carrollwood Tampa for a few years. It's a little warmer in the winter down there. I'm in Hernando county .