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BonsaiEngineer1493

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First Ume
« on: March 20, 2014, 09:29 PM »
Hello

Here is my first Ume. Just received it. It arrived without a pot; only with roots wrapped around in a bag with soil. I did a transplant without disturbing the roots. Some of the soil crumbled off so it made it easier to fit into this pot. Its in 2 parts Akadama, 1 part lava, and 1 part part pumice. It came from Cali so it is fully leafed out and has some fruits. I should probably remove those to encourage leaf buds, agree? I moved the soil a bit to show you the nebari. The main trunk branches off into two. I would like to remove the thickest one (red circle) because the other trunk has more movement and will increase the overall taper of the tree. Your thoughts?!

Thanks,
Nick
 

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Re: First Ume
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2014, 09:29 PM »
Last pic
 

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Re: First Ume
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2014, 10:51 PM »
I think the tree has Trentepohlia abietina or coral spots. I noticed a lot of orange spores. Should I worry?
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Re: First Ume
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2014, 10:58 PM »
Here is a picture:
 

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Re: First Ume
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2014, 11:33 PM »
Sweet trunk on this ume, nice pickup. I can't help you with the spots though hopefully someone else will chime in.
 

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Re: First Ume
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2014, 12:55 AM »
Removal of fruit is a good idea but the leaf and flower buds are separate.  I don't think it has any disease but not sure.  Someone from California may know.  I believe those form on some apricots much like the bumps on some elms.  Nice starting material.
 

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Re: First Ume
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2014, 02:08 PM »
I think you are fine, notice those orange bumps on my ume first pic from 2007 or 2008 and second from 2013.  I believe this is just what younger ume bark can look like.  I've seen young one's with differnent looking bark without these orange bumps as well, but I think you are good. 
 

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Re: First Ume
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2014, 02:19 PM »
Wow, what progression! I remember noticing it on your blog. I really hope It's fine. Thank you for your thoughts Owen, tmmason10, and Yenling83. Here are more pictures for the spores. These are more detailed. I'm just really worried that could be some form of nectria.
 

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Re: First Ume
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2014, 02:49 PM »
Thanks, I'd bet money that it's nothing.  However if you are worried, cover the soil surface with wet newspaper and spray the whole thing with fungicide-including trunk, branches, undersides and interior.  I believe ume are very susceptible to fungus so I understand your worry.  This is also why most old ume have dead wood and holes in their trunks.  I've heard stories of clouds of Lime Sulfur being sprayed on ume during dormate season for good measure.        
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Re: First Ume
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2014, 12:41 AM »
Yenling83, did you try to rub them off? Today I rubbed on a couple and a powdery residue did come off, but the bumps do not fade. Is that a good sign or bad sign?
 

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Re: First Ume
« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2014, 07:03 PM »
I would like to remove and leave only the main trunk, which tapers the best with interesting movement. I would like to save the other trunks by doing air layers. I read peter tea's blog, and he mentioned that "These trees will not air layer very easily." Has anyone had any luck? if yes, would you like to share your procedure?

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Nick
 

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Re: First Ume
« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2014, 07:25 PM »
Tried layering an ume in the ground twice, failed both times.
Also tried around 150 cuttings over the years and have yet to succeed.
 

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Re: First Ume
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2015, 10:40 PM »
Time to get to work. My first step is pick the best front. I spent some time looking for the best front and settled for two possible fronts. The first front is probably my favorite. It has interesting movement, which moves towards the viewer. The second front will look more like Brian Van Fleet's ume. I will have to remove large heavy branches for both fronts. I made some editions on paint for the second front. What do you guys think?
 

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Re: First Ume
« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2015, 05:43 AM »
Hey Eniginick,

 You are really gathering some nice material!

I don't know if you've seen this little series from W.P. in Belgrade.  A few great tree inspirations.
  There's about 6-7 separate videos.

Anyway, they completely changed the way I look at stuff. I would like to see, after watching these, afresh if you already saw them, if you come up with the virtual in my head! It may determine the front.

For some winter fun. And everyone should watch this lil series.

Hope to hear from you soon!

Sorce