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General Category => Deciduous Bonsai Discussion => Topic started by: JRob on December 03, 2010, 01:12 PM

Title: Winter Silhouettes
Post by: JRob on December 03, 2010, 01:12 PM
Good Afternoon All,

Sitting here at work eating my lunch and thinking about bonsai I was day dreaming about my trees in their winter silhouettes.

What does everyone think of a thread posting pictures of some of our trees in their winter silhouettes? I do not think I've seen a thread on this forum that has explored that concept.  It could be both interesting, informative and fun. Maybe we could all post some pictures this weekend. Do I have any takers?

JRob
Title: Re: Winter Silhouettes
Post by: MatsuBonsai on December 03, 2010, 01:38 PM
Sounds like a great idea.  I don't have a lot of deciduous trees, but I'll try to get something to post.
Title: Re: Winter Silhouettes
Post by: Jerry Norbury on December 03, 2010, 04:47 PM
I have quite a few photos of my shohin - just managed to get them done between the leaves falling and the snow!

Wych Elm (Ulmus Glabra x ) - from collected seedling

Field Maple (Acer Campestre) - from collected urban yamadori

Korean Hornbeam

Chinese Ash
Title: Re: Winter Silhouettes
Post by: Jerry Norbury on December 03, 2010, 04:52 PM
These are:

Chinese Ash

Chinese Ash

Korean Hornbeam

Cork bark elm
Title: Re: Winter Silhouettes
Post by: Jerry Norbury on December 03, 2010, 04:54 PM
Korean Hornbeam

Title: Re: Winter Silhouettes
Post by: Zach Smith on December 03, 2010, 05:21 PM
These are:

Chinese Ash

Chinese Ash

Korean Hornbeam

Cork bark elm
Very fine trees, Jerry.  I'd recommend getting the moss off that cork bark elm's trunk.

Zach
Title: Re: Winter Silhouettes
Post by: MatsuBonsai on December 06, 2010, 04:07 PM
Great looking trees, Jerry.  Looking forward to more shots from other folks, too. 

It's just been brutally cold the last few days.  I'll try to get out and take some shots next time I'm home during daylight hours.
Title: Re: Winter Silhouettes
Post by: JRob on December 06, 2010, 07:31 PM
As will I. 18 degrees this morning. Burrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! We due for our first significant winter mix this weekend. Off friday. I'll try to post some pictures then as well.

JRob
Title: Re: Winter Silhouettes
Post by: Jay on December 07, 2010, 05:57 AM
Jerry, love those pictures. This morning I am looking at about 10 inches of the white stuff. As for temps, we will be in the low single digits by Thurs night.

I will try and post a pix or two also later this week.

All be well
J
Title: Re: Winter Silhouettes
Post by: Mike Pollock on December 07, 2010, 10:53 AM
Here are a few.  

This month's tree of the month nekkid, a korean hornbeam forest created by Colin Lewis at the MidAtlantic Bonsai Societies' festival around  5 or 6 years ago, and a honeysuckle I collected 7 or 8 years ago.

Love seeing these trees at this time of the year. Think we can convince Bill Valavanis to move his National Exhibitions to Late Winter?

Mike
Title: Re: Winter Silhouettes
Post by: MatsuBonsai on December 07, 2010, 10:57 AM
Love seeing these trees at this time of the year. Think we can convince Bill Valavanis to move his National Exhibitions to Late Winter?

+1
Title: Re: Winter Silhouettes
Post by: JRob on December 07, 2010, 03:04 PM
Mike,

Who is the potter on the tree of the month and the honeysuckle?

JRob
Title: Re: Winter Silhouettes
Post by: William N. Valavanis on December 07, 2010, 04:18 PM
I'd love to have the US National Bonsai Exhibition in winter.

Let me know how many people want (and could actually get here) in winter. Normal snowfall is from November (sometimes October) THROUGH late April, sometimes May too. I remember our club's spring show during the second week of May when I also host an Open House in my garden. I was looking out the back door of my studio at 6" of heavy wet snow.... It has actually snowed in Rochester every month of the year! (I hate snow) We have already been plowed out twice today and the day is not over yet...

Our beautiful country is large and diverse that if we wait until the weather "normally" breaks in April, the California trees will have already been trimmed and perhaps leaf cut too, while we are still chipping ice away from coldframes.


Bill
Title: Re: Winter Silhouettes
Post by: Don Blackmond on December 07, 2010, 09:04 PM
japanese maple
bald cypress
japanese maple clump
another japanese maple clump
Title: Re: Winter Silhouettes
Post by: mcpesq817 on December 08, 2010, 09:14 AM
Here are a few.  

This month's tree of the month nekkid, a korean hornbeam forest created by Colin Lewis at the MidAtlantic Bonsai Societies' festival around  5 or 6 years ago, and a honeysuckle I collected 7 or 8 years ago.

Love seeing these trees at this time of the year. Think we can convince Bill Valavanis to move his National Exhibitions to Late Winter?

Mike

Your hornbeam that won the tree of the month contest is absolutely spectacular.  It has a very natural feeling to it, and it's one of my favorite hornbeams, if not deciduous trees, that I've seen.  Thanks very much for sharing.
Title: Re: Winter Silhouettes
Post by: mcpesq817 on December 08, 2010, 09:17 AM
japanese maple
bald cypress
japanese maple clump
another japanese maple clump

Hi Don - really great trees as usual from you.  I particularly love that BC and the second JM clump :D
Title: Re: Winter Silhouettes
Post by: Mike Pollock on December 08, 2010, 09:33 AM
Thanks for the nice words.

The hornbeam's pot is from that underachiever Nick Lenz.  :)

The honeysuckle's potter is unknown. It is European, but my friend who gave it to me doesn't remember the source. If anyone knows, please tell us.

Don, love the first maple clump. Something about those vertical group compositions really speak to me.

Title: Re: Winter Silhouettes
Post by: Jerry Norbury on December 08, 2010, 04:43 PM
Don - Did you regrow roots at one time on the Tridents?
Mike - Pot might be English - Erin or Walsall.
Title: Re: Winter Silhouettes
Post by: Don Blackmond on December 10, 2010, 07:39 AM
Don - Did you regrow roots at one time on the Tridents?

No. I got the Japanese Maples in a collection I bought from a guy on the east coast.  I think they came from BonsaiWest and are imported trees.  The wide group has a fused base the size of a dinner plate.  The tall, narrow group is my favorite maple group, ever.
Title: Re: Winter Silhouettes
Post by: Jerry Norbury on December 10, 2010, 07:58 AM
I was looking at a maple today at Lodder bonsai with similar fused roots. €5000 or $6500 to you...
Title: Re: Winter Silhouettes
Post by: Don Blackmond on December 10, 2010, 11:51 AM
I was looking at a maple today at Lodder bonsai with similar fused roots. €5000 or $6500 to you...

That's about right.  They aren't cheap, but you get what you pay for.
Title: Re: Winter Silhouettes
Post by: JRob on December 10, 2010, 04:05 PM
All, Since I started the thread thought I should post a few of my shohin.

First tree is a Premna microphylla japonica "Japanese Musk Maple" in a japanese pot.
Title: Re: Winter Silhouettes
Post by: JRob on December 10, 2010, 04:10 PM
The second tree is a shohin Acer palmatum "Shishigashira" - Lion's Head or Lions Mane Japanese Maple.
The third tree is a shohin Acer buergeranum - Trident Maple
Title: Re: Winter Silhouettes
Post by: JRob on December 10, 2010, 04:18 PM
the fourth tree is a shohin Ligustrum species not yet identified, "Privet"

the fifth tree has sentimental value. It is one of the earliest shohin I bought to practice techniques of ramification, wiring and scar healing on. It was only $15.00 and now I can not seem to part with it even though Shim would like to see it go. I bought it on feb 21 2009. It is a Carpinus.
Title: Re: Winter Silhouettes
Post by: JRob on December 10, 2010, 04:22 PM
The final tree is a very immature Toyo-nishiki quince that I am playing with.

JRob,

Lets keep the silhouettes coming.
Title: Re: Winter Silhouettes
Post by: Jay on December 10, 2010, 05:20 PM
JRob, have you thought about a (ground) layer for the Carpinus. I would think that some new roots about an inch or so.., it's hard to measure without scale, might make you want to keep this one. Or you can just ship it up to Vermont

J
Title: Re: Winter Silhouettes
Post by: Don Blackmond on December 11, 2010, 05:21 PM
Jeffrey, the shishi looks good as usual.
Title: Re: Winter Silhouettes
Post by: rockm on December 11, 2010, 08:25 PM
Where'd you get the premna? Don't see it much here in the states. Nice tree.

I have a spindly sapling I got from a local nursery. Needs about 45 years development  ;D

Also, it STINKS. I mean, Jeez, I had to put it in the very corner of the yard by itself it smells so bad... ;D
Title: Re: Winter Silhouettes
Post by: shimsuki on December 12, 2010, 02:07 AM
Where'd you get the premna?

We got it from our very own Don Blackmond from Gregory Beach Bonsai
Title: Re: Winter Silhouettes
Post by: JRob on December 12, 2010, 08:25 AM
Jay,

Shim has also recommended an air layer if I am going to keep the tree. I'll just keep it healthy and continue the styling and ramification and we'll see how it develops.

Don,

Thanks, I've got a very nice Japanese pot that I am going to put it in for my dosplay at Shohin STL. The nebari has developed nicely. Heavy fertilizer placed around the trunk has produced a massive amount of fine feeder roots that are fusing and producing the "pooling"  at the base of the trunk that is so desirable.

Rockm,

My son is correct it is from Don. 2 of the six trees I purchased from him have won ribbons from japanese judges. I am hoping a display of my trees purchased from him does well at Shohin STL in 2011. This premna has a mild musk scent and I love the way it perfumes the bench when it is watered or brushed. It is a unique species. There is another one in STL owned by a club member but as you said it is rare here in the states. Even in japan I understand that it is not all that common.  

JRob
Title: Re: Winter Silhouettes
Post by: rockm on December 12, 2010, 02:24 PM
MILD musk scent? ;D :D Mine STINKS (in more ways than one). It is the Pepe La Pew of my bonsai.

Yours is beautiful and give me a sense of what's possible with these. My sapling has a 1/4" trunk and umbrellas out with three main shoots about an inch up the trunk. A semicascade--like yours-is a distinct possibility with it.
Title: Re: Winter Silhouettes
Post by: jersanct on December 13, 2010, 12:03 AM
Love that honeysuckle, Mike - what type of honeysuckle is it?
Title: Re: Winter Silhouettes
Post by: Mike Pollock on December 13, 2010, 10:19 AM
Its some native honeysuckle. I collected it in the Hudson Valley of New York State. They were bordering a farmer's fields. The farm was being destroyed for a condo development and a fellow bonsaist (Craig Cowing) invited people to come up and collect. So whatever  honeysuckle is prevalent in the Northeast, this is one of those.  ;)
Title: Re: Winter Silhouettes
Post by: jersanct on December 14, 2010, 11:59 PM
Interesting - I dug up a few extremely overgrown honeysuckles when I moved into my house a few years ago.  Mine are the invasive Lonicera mackii.  Local bonsai people seem not to have even tried using them.

If yours is the same type of honeysuckle, I am encouraged by all of the branching you've established on yours.  It seems to me that if I prune any branches while they are dormant, the tree abandons the branches in the spring, but pruning during the growing season encourages branching.  Is that your experience, too?

The same Craig Cowing once encouraged me to collect some honeysuckle (the same Lonicera mackii I have) in St. Louis.  I believe I have seen photos of his own Lonicera mackiis, which were impressive, now that I think about it.  Anyway, thanks for sharing the tree.
Title: Re: Winter Silhouettes
Post by: William N. Valavanis on December 15, 2010, 08:19 AM
Mike,

Here is a Honeysuckle I've been working on for a few years. It was collected in upstate New York, and I believe it's a Lonicear morrowii.

Bill

Title: Re: Winter Silhouettes
Post by: Mike Pollock on December 15, 2010, 09:54 AM
That's great Bill.

No matter how often I visit your garden, there's always another beautiful tree for me to discover.
Title: Re: Winter Silhouettes
Post by: bwaynef on December 15, 2010, 09:57 AM
Wow Bill.  This has nothing to do with Honeysuckle or silhouettes, but I love the detail in that stand.
Title: Re: Winter Silhouettes
Post by: roelex14 on December 17, 2010, 12:34 AM
great shot! Doesnt even seem real.
anyone ready for spring yet?
Title: Re: Winter Silhouettes
Post by: JRob on December 17, 2010, 08:53 AM
I am not ready for spring yet. The trees have not slept enough! Maybe if they we all tropicals I'd feel differently. My outside storage shelter has been encrusted with snow and ice from this week's storms. I can hear the old guys snoring when I take the dogs out.

JRob
Title: Re: Winter Silhouettes
Post by: shimsuki on December 19, 2010, 12:50 PM
I took some pictures yesterday, here are some of the better trees.

Title: Re: Winter Silhouettes
Post by: shimsuki on December 19, 2010, 12:52 PM
Here are some pre-bonsai we are playing with:





You can see big pics here: http://naturalbonsai.wordpress.com/2010/12/18/winter-silhouettes/ (http://naturalbonsai.wordpress.com/2010/12/18/winter-silhouettes/)


Shim