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KimchiMonger

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What kind of Olive tree?
« on: May 08, 2010, 07:01 PM »
I just acquired this olive tree (Black Olive?) and this is what I have following a lot of cleanup.  Tree is about 14" tall and 10" wide.  Picked it up from a junk pile for $24.00 but I like it very much.  It needed a lot of cleaning and pruning.  It did thank me for bringing it home and feeding it and looks pretty darn happy so far.  I really like this tree. 

1.  Anyone know what species this is as nursery assistants not entirely sure.
2.  Any suggestions or comments on current shape and ideas for it's future growth?  

I've posted several pics from different angles for suggestions/comments.

Thanks ya'll!
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Jeff Lahr

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Re: What kind of Olive tree?
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2010, 12:33 AM »
Your tree has a nice shaped canopy. It looks like it could be planted more deeply in the pot. Are you sure that its an olive?
 

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Re: What kind of Olive tree?
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2010, 10:33 AM »
Yes it is an olive after all.  Had a neighbor check on it.  Since taking this picture, I've also covered the roots as it seems olives don't do as well with exposed roots.   ???
 

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Re: What kind of Olive tree?
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2010, 07:38 PM »
I called the nursery owner and he immediately said it was

Bucida spinosa
Family: Combretaceae
Spiny Black Olive, Ming Tree

I can attest to the spiny nature of the tree while pruning. I know I'll be keeping my eye open for this variety in the future. Unfortunately, he said he doesn't get them often at all.

A member in another discussion forum was right on the money with the referenced photo links. Here's the pre-bonsai example as I found it, and a finished masterpiece at ucarillo's site:

First photo from http://toptropicals.com
Second photo from http://www.bonsai-wbff.org

 

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Re: What kind of Olive tree?
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2010, 08:12 AM »
Black olive (bucida spinosa) is NOT an olive . It is a New World tropical species, native to the Fla. keys and mid-Fla.. DO NOT FOLLOW CARE INFORMATION FOR OLIVES for your tree.  It should not be treated like a true olive.

Common names for trees can be extremely misleading. Just because it's got "olive" in its name, doesn't mean it actually IS an olive.

Bucida Spinosa doesn't like dry soil as Olea (olive) species do. It will die if the soil is allowed to dry out. I've heard it called the "I dry, I die" tree. True old world olive species live in semi-arid climates and prefer a fast draining drier soil.

Bucida roots are more sensitive to pruning than Olive. Where drastic root work is possible with Olea, the same treatment with Bucida will most likely kill it.

Bucida is also not capable of surviving light frosts, as Olea can.

http://www.bonsai-bci.com/species/bucida.html

 
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Re: What kind of Olive tree?
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2010, 11:35 PM »
After perusing cyber isles for that perfect garden pot stand or potter's table, I realized I didn't see what I wanted. Just couldn't find one that interested me as my little Elm, Black Olive, and Dwarf Yaupon Holly stood by waiting for me to make up my mind.

While walking the dog I noticed a total of three tree stumps all laying around within a block of each other in open fields. I drove the truck out to each one, loaded them up, and brought them home to make this little bonsai corner for them. They seem pretty pleased with the whole thing and I rather like it. I literally found them in the pictured sizes with no cutting necessary. Could that been any easier?!?

Just a thought and suggestion for those of you who also can't find the right outdoor stand.

 

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Re: What kind of Olive tree?
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2010, 08:18 AM »
 Stacking deadwood and fire wood up against the house can provide the perfect set up for termite setting up shop in your home. Deadwood almost always comes with these critters.

Nice idea for the stand, I'd just get them away from the house.

Also, with no anchoring, they could also be prone to falling over in the wind, or doggy attention...
 

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Re: What kind of Olive tree?
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2010, 08:30 AM »
Thank you for the reminder  >:(

I do have room within the soil garden right in front of the current set up.  I'll be moving the entire setup just as it is into the ground.  As for dogs, this entire setup is a fenced patio.  Again, thanks for the reminder!
 

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Re: What kind of Olive tree?
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2010, 10:52 AM »
Sorry. couldn't resist ;D

I have had first hand experience with termites and wood near houses...not pretty. :(

 

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Re: What kind of Olive tree?
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2010, 10:55 AM »
By the way, I also learned from the exterminator that termites mostly dig underground passages to invade houses. Burying these anywhere close to the house could actually help the little beggars along. If you bury them, do so at least 10 yards away from the house...