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M. Frary

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Seiju Elm
« on: November 16, 2013, 09:13 AM »
  This is my Seiju Elm in her fall colors. This is the only one I own of these but that's going to change. I really love the small leaves and corky bark. Any critique/advice is welcomed.
 

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Re: Seiju Elm
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2013, 11:50 AM »
  Found a picture with green leaves.
 

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Re: Seiju Elm
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2013, 05:19 AM »
Wow.

The internodes are so short. That's amazing.

The apex seems a little overpowering.

A couple years ramification, this is going to be sweet.

I would cut the top back twice as hard, twice as much.

Those internodes on better ramified branches, a very real image it will be.

Beautiful.

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Joshua Hanzman

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Re: Re: Seiju Elm
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2013, 02:15 PM »
Beautiful tree, I love elms and this one has nice potential.

Question, have your elms turned color yet and do you think I should worry that mine have not yet turned?

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Re: Seiju Elm
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2013, 11:03 PM »
   Thank you all for the replies. The apex is a little overpowering. I'm not sure but I've been thinking about layering the top off and start a new apex. That will put a little more taper in the trunk and give me another tree.
   I thought the internodes on all Seiju Elms were real close like this one?
  This is a picture from this fall so yeah it definitely has changed color. In fact all of the leaves are almost off of the tree now. My Siberian Elms have all also dropped their leaves too. I have 1 regular Chinese elm and it has changed color on some of its leaves but about half of them are still green.
 

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Re: Seiju Elm
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2013, 05:20 AM »
M. Frary,

   I was thinking these Seiju Elms may naturally have those short internodes. I only have what I beleive to be American, Slippery, and Chinese (collected Chicago hardy no mallsai) Elms.

   I too would layer the top. If you follow up from the table, the first siding strip with the cable on it call 1, go up to the 5th, that part going left would make an excellent base. (new tree)

Looks like the remaining tree may have to bud down a bit to get a good apex.

I think the only reason it looks a bit off, that base is great, the rest needs equally impressive taper.

I just watched this critique, thought you may like it, I see your elm going this route.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?sa=X&ei=GuOJUvL_BOGEyAHen4DACg&ved=0CAsQqwQ&v=rRaF5LWUnyM&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DrRaF5LWUnyM%26sa%3DX%26ei%3DGuOJUvL_BOGEyAHen4DACg%26ved%3D0CAsQqwQ

Good luck in totmonth!

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Re: Seiju Elm
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2013, 12:28 PM »
   From the one reply I thought someone may have one.with longer internodes. This tree is just like all other elms in that you can't hardly hurt it. I trimmed the roots last spring and it came back so hard it's heaving itself out of the program. My only problem is it's from way out of my USDA zone so I can't put it in the ground to thicken. I picked.up a collanderfor it for the  next couple years to hopefully thicken it up. It has been in that pot for.a long time and it would probably like.to stretch its legs a little.
  I keep it in full sun all day long and it loves it. I would like to find another one but all the ones I find are smaller if anyone knows where to find a fat stump of a Seiju or a Hokkaido Elm. I plan on collecting all of the elm varieties.
 

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Re: Seiju Elm
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2013, 02:44 PM »
You know about the stumps that Brent from Evergreen Gardenworks has right?
 

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Re: Seiju Elm
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2013, 10:31 PM »
  Was just looking today. Whew!
 

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Re: Re: Seiju Elm
« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2013, 10:15 PM »
Whoa, he had some great ones, my 6 inch caliper 5 trunk is far better but still, those are nice :P

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Re: Seiju Elm
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2013, 11:17 AM »
Lovely - but I'd want it at 1/3 of this size if I had it...
 

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Re: Seiju Elm
« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2013, 12:46 PM »
I can only think of one word....... AIRLAYER....
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Re: Seiju Elm
« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2013, 05:53 PM »
It seems like there are two trees, split about halfway up (or below that).  The base has strong angular movement.  The top less so.  I'd preserve that movement in the bottom ...and might consider keeping the top.