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Herman

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pomegranate
« on: September 08, 2014, 07:07 AM »
Hi guys,

Here is a pomegranate I've been working on for few years to try and build up the ramification. I'm using Walter Pall's hedge method the past 2 years and it's been coming along pretty well I think.  Tell me what you guys think?

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Re: pomegranate
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2014, 08:03 AM »
Coming along nicely Herman, but how does the heartwood hold up to ageing?
Thanks for taking the time to show.
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Anthony
 

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Re: pomegranate
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2014, 08:31 AM »
Hi Anthony,

I very lightly sand it with emery cloth each spring then I treat it with some alcohol based wood stain, have been doing this since 2006. I also try not to get water on the exposed wood when i water the tree, the character on the wood was done by time and mother nature :). I don't think were I'm at is as humid as your area.

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Re: pomegranate
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2014, 09:45 AM »
Herman,

a big thank you. I don't know why, but we never looked up the climate of Johannesburg, though we do have an olive and a Celtis a. from seed. Came from your botannical gardens via some friendly horticultural students, in Florence, Italy.

Seems that you have a six month period during the colder months with little rain. We have a 5 to 6 to 7 month period during the colder months [ 70 deg.F - 22 deg.C - lasts from 5 p.m to 8 a.m  - ha ha ha ] of no rain or very little rain. Then back to 15 cm a month with a peak at 23 cm in August.
Our humidity does not seem able to go below 40%, probably due to being a small island.

Another part of the mystery solved.

We have a smaller variety of Punica granatum nana, called - minima, tiny leaves and seems to be well adapted to our climate.
The largest punica comes India back in the 1800's and the next size doesn't really like life down here.
We also had the flowering only type, but haven't seen that for years.

Happy growing.
Good Day
Anthony

* Yes, we can be humid in the valleys, and after rain with sun, or sun and rain. Two weeks in August is our horrible time, though temps. stay around 30 deg.C as highs.
 

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« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2014, 07:56 PM »
Speaking of pomegranate AND Walter Pall I had to chime in and say that when I see pomegranate bonsai Roy Nagatoshi comes to mind. I've read of his talent with twisted trunk pomegranate for 40 years and finally met him yesterday. He was translating for Tohru Suzuki on his first visit to this island. What a nice guy! And here's a link to Walter's visit to Roy's a few years ago.

http://walter-pall-travelogues.blogspot.com/2009/12/bonsai-in-california-2009-2-roy.html
 

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« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2014, 05:31 AM »
Nice Herman.
 

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Re: pomegranate
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2014, 07:21 AM »
Speaking of pomegranate AND Walter Pall I had to chime in and say that when I see pomegranate bonsai Roy Nagatoshi comes to mind. I've read of his talent with twisted trunk pomegranate for 40 years and finally met him yesterday. He was translating for Tohru Suzuki on his first visit to this island. What a nice guy! And here's a link to Walter's visit to Roy's a few years ago.

http://walter-pall-travelogues.blogspot.com/2009/12/bonsai-in-california-2009-2-roy.html

Thanks for the link Shima, those are some show stopping pomegranates :) and Roy looks very friendly and nice in the pictures :) I have met Walter though and I like that he is doing his own thing and has been doing his own thing for very long, I tend to gravitate away from the status quot, much like him, so I tend to relate to his art a lot more.


thanks Sorce :)

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« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2014, 05:52 PM »
Speaking of pomegranate AND Walter Pall I had to chime in and say that when I see pomegranate bonsai Roy Nagatoshi comes to mind. I've read of his talent with twisted trunk pomegranate for 40 years and finally met him yesterday. He was translating for Tohru Suzuki on his first visit to this island. What a nice guy! And here's a link to Walter's visit to Roy's a few years ago.

http://walter-pall-travelogues.blogspot.com/2009/12/bonsai-in-california-2009-2-roy.html

 I tend to gravitate away from the status quot, much like him, so I tend to relate to his art a lot more.




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Herman

Me too!
 

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Re: pomegranate
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2014, 06:40 PM »
Walter Pall travels all over the world as shown in his travelogues, but never before set foot on Japan.  He is a pioneer in his own right, and probably does not want to dilute his visions even after more than thirty years of pioneering.  Tremendous amount of respect of him from me.

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Re: pomegranate
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2014, 07:53 PM »
Walter puts on a very good show, You get your money 's worth. Nice bonsai too.
 

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Re: pomegranate
« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2014, 01:13 AM »
So any comments on this tree itself?
 

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Re: pomegranate
« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2014, 05:41 AM »
Herman,

you could help your situation, if you placed your tree against a plain background, from a front on angle.
As you would want the tree viewed.
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A simple visual example -
 

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« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2014, 07:36 AM »
So any comments on this tree itself?
It is very symmetrical.  If that is your goal, you're achieving it. However, it would be more dramatic if the left side was reduced to a Jin, and you extended the sabamiki to connect with it.
 

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Re: pomegranate
« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2014, 08:07 AM »
So any comments on this tree itself?
It is very symmetrical.  If that is your goal, you're achieving it. However, it would be more dramatic if the left side was reduced to a Jin, and you extended the sabamiki to connect with it.

Hello Brian,

I guess you meant the lowest branch on the left side? Might be a possibility... If I get a photo up of the tree against a plain back ground could you produce a virtual of your thoughts, please?

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Re: pomegranate
« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2014, 10:25 AM »
Yes.  Like Brian said, it's very symmetrical with the negative space in the middle that the bull can run though it.  Check out my suggestion with the attached drawing.  Till the tree little bit to the right and on the right structure, remove everything except the lowest branch.  The reason to develop the left structure because it has better tapper and a lot more branches already in place that just need to be wired into places.  If you like my idea, then you have to draw one back for me in the future when I need your opinion.  And on top of that, you own me a beer whenever you have a chance to set foot on Florida.

Cheers,
van