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Don Blackmond

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Old, collected Southern Live Oak
« on: June 21, 2010, 01:09 PM »
I saw someone posting/asking about live oak tree bonsai on a forum.  Thought I'd post this one.  It was collected about 26 years ago.  Grown to resemble the sprawling canopy oaks of the south, although it needs more thinning and separation of branching.  Its getting there though.  Sorry for the poor photos; its not easy to photograph.  Looks much better in person.
 

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Re: Old, collected Southern Live Oak
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2010, 06:26 PM »
you have some truly amazing trees
where do you keep all of these monsters?
 

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Re: Old, collected Southern Live Oak
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2010, 09:48 AM »
Hi Don,

Very nice live oak!  I haven't seen too many in bonsai.  Rockm has a really nice live oak that he showed at the National Arboretum last spring - maybe this will nudge him to share his tree  ;D
 

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Re: Old, collected Southern Live Oak
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2010, 10:15 AM »
This is a KILLER live oak ;D ;D ;D. Shows what can be done with them.-- next to this one, mine would look pathetic... :'( ;D

I'd be interested in knowing the source of this tree. My guess would be that it is not really a southern live oak, but the hardier and tighter leaved upland subspecies that is common in Texas which is Quercus fusiformis or upland live oak. Coastal Southern Live oak is kind of finicky in containers and rather touchy outside its Gulf coast range. Fusiformis is much more forgiving and can stand colder winters...Given the spreading, even nebari and upright trunk, I'd also  guess it might be a nursery source.
 

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Re: Old, collected Southern Live Oak
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2010, 10:42 AM »
"Quercus fusiformis or upland live oak."

Should read "Quercus Fusiformis, or Escarpment Live oak"

http://www.wildflower.org/gallery/result.php?id_image=17927

 

Don Blackmond

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Re: Old, collected Southern Live Oak
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2010, 10:52 AM »
I'd be interested in knowing the source of this tree.

It is yamadori.  Dug from a river bed in southern Louisiana.  Pearl River, I believe.
 

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Re: Old, collected Southern Live Oak
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2010, 11:04 AM »
Cool. Then it is probably NOT the upland species ;D. Very nice tree.
 

Don Blackmond

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Re: Old, collected Southern Live Oak
« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2010, 11:10 AM »
The leaves are different than the leaves on the trees in the link you posted.  I have several southern live oaks.  The leaves are pretty consistent unless defoliated, then they can reduce well and return more oval in shape with less points.  I will post another soon.
 

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Re: Old, collected Southern Live Oak
« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2010, 11:18 AM »
Who was digging these 25 years ago? ;D  Haven't seen that many of them, especially well developed specimens like this one. Usually the trees I have run across have been cut downs from large nursery trees and not all that graceful or interesting.
 

Don Blackmond

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Re: Old, collected Southern Live Oak
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2010, 11:22 AM »
It was dug by Tim O'Neil.  He made it.
 

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Re: Old, collected Southern Live Oak
« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2010, 11:30 AM »
When do you defoliate?
 

Don Blackmond

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Re: Old, collected Southern Live Oak
« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2010, 12:30 PM »
defoliate mid-summer, depending on heat or when you decide to wire
 

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Re: Old, collected Southern Live Oak
« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2010, 02:15 PM »
I have never defoliated mine. I am pretty cautious about being too aggressive with it since my climate is a bit different than where the tree hails from. I have been considering  it, however, in the last couple of years to increase ramification.

Do yours set acorns?
 

Don Blackmond

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Re: Old, collected Southern Live Oak
« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2010, 03:33 PM »
I have never defoliated mine. I am pretty cautious about being too aggressive with it since my climate is a bit different than where the tree hails from. I have been considering  it, however, in the last couple of years to increase ramification.

Do yours set acorns?

well, you have to do what you are comfortable doing.  I fertilize well with liquid a few days before defoliating.  They pop strong.
Yes, mine produce acorns.
 

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Re: Old, collected Southern Live Oak
« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2010, 08:01 AM »
Don,

Got any more pics?