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Don Blackmond

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Large Old Imported Chinese Hackberry
« on: December 17, 2009, 01:17 PM »
I have mentioned recently in some postings that I tend to like trees that don't follow the rules and have unique features.  This tree is one of them.  Its an old imported Chinese Hackberry.  It was owned by a friend of mine and while he had it I always admired it.  There is just something about it that appeals to me.  

It needs some work but nothing major.  During a bad storm last season it actually blew off the bench and the apex of the main trunk was broken out.  You can see where it is stubbed off.  There are several new shoots to select from in order to regrow the lead there.  It lost 4"-5" of canopy at that spot, and that will take a couple of seasons to replace.  All in all, it was minor damage considering the tree dropped 3 feet to the ground.

In any case, the bottom left branch, or secondary trunk if you prefer that terminology, stands in the face of many rules.  Yet, that is what makes this tree excellent.  A long time ago, someone exhibited tremendous bravery when building this tree.  Or, maybe it was dumb luck experimenting on a worthless piece of stock with no future.  Regardless, this is a case where ignoring formal rules created great bonsai.
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Re: Large Old Imported Chinese Hackberry
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2009, 03:56 PM »
Don,
I like your tree very much. It does bend a few rules but it works.
Just playing with the image a bit.
Comments?
Jerry
 

Don Blackmond

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Re: Large Old Imported Chinese Hackberry
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2009, 06:25 PM »
Jerry the crown looked better before the main apex was taken off.  It had better symmetry.  I agree that the left apex needs to be reduced somewhat.  It grows quite fast for an old tree, so there is much that can be done in a few short seasons.  Thanks for looking.
 

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Re: Large Old Imported Chinese Hackberry
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2009, 10:25 AM »
Excellent tree. Must've been some storm :o to lift it off the bench.

I agree that secondary trunk makes the image. Old quality chinese stock almost always have these kinds of intentional "quirks" in them, from what I've seen.
 

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Re: Large Old Imported Chinese Hackberry
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2009, 12:14 PM »
Based on the 2nd picture, someone needs to buy Don a new Coke.


That is an impressive tree.  I'll be watching to see what kind of apex you're able to develop over the next few years.
 

Don Blackmond

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Re: Large Old Imported Chinese Hackberry
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2009, 05:11 PM »
Based on the 2nd picture, someone needs to buy Don a new Coke.

I'd settle for a beer can that I get to empty.
 

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Re: Large Old Imported Chinese Hackberry
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2009, 05:21 PM »
Don: I too like this tree very much. It looks aged. Nothing wrong with a Divided Trunk style. I see oaks,poplar, and sometimes beech in this style. If you removed one trunk it would look like another sumo trident(conifer style) Thanks for posting. Looks like you got some snow over there. Dustin
 

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Re: Large Old Imported Chinese Hackberry
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2009, 11:41 AM »
Don,
Interesting tree, I really like many of the older Chinese imports, built with "non-obvious" choices.  I really like the pot. John
 

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Re: Large Old Imported Chinese Hackberry
« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2009, 11:27 AM »
John the pot has developed a really nice patina over the years.

Thanks for looking.  I often wonder if people actually visit this site.
 

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Re: Large Old Imported Chinese Hackberry
« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2009, 01:22 PM »
Keep the faith, there isn't the bickering here, so you tend to lose the "ignorati" pretty quickly. I would think that 2-3 years of defoliation and light wiring and you will have a very beautiful winter image- even for a sumo tree- which I find to be doubly satisfying.
John
 

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Re: Large Old Imported Chinese Hackberry
« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2009, 03:22 PM »
I would think that 2-3 years of defoliation and light wiring and you will have a very beautiful winter image.
John

I think that is true.  These grow fast and develop lots of twigging rapidly.  They do tend to get some minor dieback, but not enough to cause any problems.  In fact, there is usually more growth than you want, requiring thinning.

Speaking of the pot, I have a grey oval tokoname pot.  What do you think about using a grey pot?  How about oval rather than rectangle?
 

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Re: Large Old Imported Chinese Hackberry
« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2009, 04:06 PM »
Don,

I think this could be the aim to go for within the next years. It will be a very powerful tree.
 

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Re: Large Old Imported Chinese Hackberry
« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2009, 04:55 PM »
Grey could work, can you post a pic with the potential pot sitting in front of the current one? might be just a need to visualize for me.
John
 

Don Blackmond

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Re: Large Old Imported Chinese Hackberry
« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2009, 06:06 PM »
Grey could work, can you post a pic with the potential pot sitting in front of the current one? might be just a need to visualize for me.
John

yes but there is another tree in it right now....

Don,

I think this could be the aim to go for within the next years. It will be a very powerful tree.

yes.  it needs to be a bit shorter than it was before the apex on the main trunk was busted off.  it had the shape, only it was 5" or so taller at the main apex.
 

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Re: Large Old Imported Chinese Hackberry
« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2009, 07:48 AM »
Hi Don,

I think the pot it is in looks great, and I am thinking that with such a massive trunk, an oval pot might not be strong enough to support it.  I guess it would depend on the pot, and weather it has soft edges or a strong rim etc.  As for the color, I love grey pots, but with the light gray bark, I wonder if it would be too similar.  It would be great to see a pic of the pot you are thinking of, we could photoshop it onto the Hackberry even if it has another tree in it atm.  Anyways, I really like this tree, and it will look great when the canopy gets back into proportion.  Thanks for sharing.

Alex