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John Kirby

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Korean Hornbeam Project
« on: February 23, 2014, 08:39 PM »
This is an older Korean Hornbeam, was a pre 2002 import by the old Korea Bonsai Company out of BC. Was imported, styled and then allowed to overgrow, so the branches were reduced and are ready for a restart. Tree was repotted last year, so after gaining strength, it has been pruned back and will be allowed to run, be wired and run again.
 

Gaffer

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Re: Korean Hornbeam Project
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2014, 09:37 PM »
Hi John
Should you not carve those bulges out now and let them heal before you get serious about it's training.
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Joshua Hanzman

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Re: Korean Hornbeam Project
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2014, 11:26 PM »
Gaffer, what bulges do you see? I thought that was just part of the shape that is lost in 2D, am I wrong John?
 

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Re: Korean Hornbeam Project
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2014, 07:18 AM »
Bulges are part of the charm of the great KH. Why carve a beauty like that one up?
 

Don Blackmond

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Re: Korean Hornbeam Project
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2014, 08:06 AM »
Lumps, bumps, bulges, etc are part of the character of the tree.  That's the way these grow.  If you cut out bulges you may need to create a jin/shari feature because these trees are extremely slow to heal.

Most old or collected KH have, or develop, trunks with canker/burl.  That's part of the charm.  
 

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Re: Korean Hornbeam Project
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2014, 07:59 PM »
Was just having some fun guys. Does anyone ever question what John does.
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Re: Korean Hornbeam Project
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2014, 09:41 PM »
Results speak for themselves. Don't recall seeing any of your trees posted. 
 

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Re: Korean Hornbeam Project
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2014, 11:20 PM »
I question John all the time, "John how does it feel to be so perfect"?  swooooon
 

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Re: Korean Hornbeam Project
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2014, 08:39 AM »
Hmm, how about this is where we decided to start. There will most likely be reductions in some of the cut branches, seen as protuberances here. However, there is no single really strong area in the tree, so let's start with reducing the branches that wil help get the strength we want, wire, grow, cutback; wire grow, cutback.

Boon and I had a good deal of conversation on how to proceed with this tree. Strength first. Tree was repotted last winter, roots are doing well, branch reductions are done, now we move forward. Notice also, we reduced a really large branch you can see that it is covered with cut paste. These trees heal really slowly, see Don's note above, so big cuts are likely to be with you for a generation or two or three......

Question away, I will respond to the reasonable one's, like Gaffer's.
 

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Re: Korean Hornbeam Project
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2014, 06:39 PM »
Thanks John
Sounds like you at least have a sense of humor. And Jason you should lighten up a bit. Sounds like it rains a bit too much in Seattle . You know what Jason we are having a international convention in October in Victoria . Be nice to meet some Of you guys in person. And yes I will exhibit some of my trees as well. I would put my trees on study group but I work off of an iPad  and can not figure out how. It's an age thing. Besides I was feeling a little cheeky after we beat you guys 1 not in that great hockey game in Sochi .
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Re: Korean Hornbeam Project
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2014, 06:55 PM »
Besides I was feeling a little cheeky after we beat you guys 1 not in that great hockey game in Sochi .
Qualicum Brian
Yeah, but we won gold in ice dancing!!! :-[

...Cool tree, John.  Good luck with it.
 

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Re: Korean Hornbeam Project
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2014, 08:39 PM »
Gaffer, besides your mother , who plays hockey?
 

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Re: Korean Hornbeam Project
« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2014, 09:01 PM »
Come on now John .that was silly. Besides if I keep responding to all this stuff I will become a 5 star member. I really have to figure out this picture thing so at least you will see that I am a player and not just a cold canadian.
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Re: Korean Hornbeam Project
« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2014, 10:11 PM »
John,

I am very impressed with your posts, knowledge, discussions and interst to teach...About your discussion with Boon about the long range plans for this tree (short range plans of roots, strength and major branch placement), I am curious if there is consideration for a trunk chop (top 2-4 inches where taper/movement is less)?
 

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Re: Korean Hornbeam Project
« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2014, 09:10 AM »
Josh,
Actually there is. From a design perspective this tree could be considered too short or too tall. Taking the top off of this tree could give it better flow. I have not decided whether or not to remove the top section. I could get a faster tree by increasing the height and taper by growing several 'up' branches , which within 3-5 years could give a nice 'broom' type apex, this would be a very natural top, go out and look up in to dormant trees and see his many of them crown like that vs trees that follow a single dominant leader (like a pine).