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Judy

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Korean hornbeam
« on: August 26, 2013, 09:08 AM »
Here is my KH, it may look a bit sparse right now as I did major branch removal this past winter, and also did some thinning to get light into the buds in the interior of the tree.  It has responded well, and has new shoots (which are hard to see) everywhere.  There are a couple of weak thinner branches that I'm allowing to grow unchecked, and didn't wire.  I'm hoping that they'll get with the program too.  They do have some shoots, but not as much as the rest of the tree.

Here are some photos, the tree does have more than one good angle, but I think that somewhere between the first two pics will be the "front".  BTW, this is the tree that I thought would look good in the green oval Paul Katich pot that he posted here.  We are talking about building something for this.

Other pics are the side I was considering the front, but now am moving away from. There is a video of this on Al's website, that he stitched together a surround of all the angles. Comments are welcome!

 

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Re: Korean hornbeam
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2013, 09:22 AM »
The base of the new front (as pictured in #1 if I'm understanding correctly) is much more powerful.  It gives the tree much more power and stability.  The ONLY thing I don't love about the new front is that branch coming in front of the bigger, rear trunk.  I think the (design of the) tree would miss it if it were removed though.
 

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Re: Korean hornbeam
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2013, 11:24 AM »
Yes, it may turn slightly more as in photo 2, but that is basically the new front.  It does have a stronger feel from this side, and maybe that branch could be shortened, and/or moved around somewhat to help.   I just recently (last few months) started seriously looking at this side, so most of the current branching was made for the other side.  
How do you feel about that front root?

Oh, and just for fun, here is a fall shot from last year.
« Last Edit: August 26, 2013, 11:28 AM by Judy »
 

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Re: Korean hornbeam
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2013, 08:31 AM »
Judy love these old Korean Hornbeams. Question, I personally like the shift to a new front, you gain a lot by reversing as you have done. The question I have is, what does the tree lkook like when yo go the opposite direction, I believe that you turne dthe new front counter clockwise a bit, what happens when you go clockwise? My question arises fromn the relatively straight root pointing directly at you with the new front. That can be pruned quite a bit shorter most likely, when repotted, or it could be "hidden" by tilting the tree a few degrees forward. Could we task you to take a picture from the opposite quadrant (other quarter of the new front side) and with the back of the pot sitting up on a piece of 1" dimensional lumber to tilt it towards us?

Love the tree I have one similar, though not as nice. John
 

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Re: Korean hornbeam
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2013, 09:13 AM »
Judy,
I want to say that the photo of the tree w/o leaves is one of the best I've seen.
Ignoring the foreground, the shot has great components:  without harsh lights and the trees that are ever so slightly reflected in the window behind the pale gauzy curtain are a perfect suggestive counterpoint to the bare tree. The tone is neutral perfect from the trunk to the twigs. Very nice.
 

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Re: Korean hornbeam
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2013, 09:20 AM »
Your tree looks very similar to a tree I used to own.
Frank
 

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Re: Korean hornbeam
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2013, 10:04 AM »
One could even say it is the SAME tree!  I got this from Don B. last year, it's nice to meet you Frank.  I hear it was originally from Brussels?  Maybe you could fill in a bit of history?

Thanks for the compliment on the photo, most of mine are not that good.  I do like using that material as a backdrop, but sometimes don't like seeing thru it.  I'm working on getting a block to go outside it.

I will take the photos you asked for John, and would love to see a pic of yours too.
 

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Re: Korean hornbeam
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2013, 11:17 AM »
Here are the photos of the angles on this side of the tree.   I don't think that they are very flattering.... I'll just have to work with that root, I think.  Pic 1 is current front, but with a block in the back.
« Last Edit: August 27, 2013, 11:20 AM by Judy »
 

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Re: Korean hornbeam
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2013, 11:59 AM »
Personally, I like img_2451 as the front. Or starting there the left side of img_2451 should be the front, rotating the tree a few degrees from there. I like the taller trunk forward. It may not show the massive base as well, but it has better depth, perspective of a taller tree. The hollow under the trunk is also more visible from this angle, this adds interest.

Just my opinion, this is a good tree. It looks great from several different sides.
« Last Edit: August 27, 2013, 12:01 PM by Leo in NE Illinois »
 

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Re: Korean hornbeam
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2013, 06:58 PM »
Judy,
re: using a blocking panel so you don't see the background trees through the curtain, I think it would flatten out the bonsai portrait. The way it is now you have depth and the illusion of trees w/o really seeing them. It's a happy accident.
Try it both ways and see what you end up with.
 

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Re: Korean hornbeam
« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2013, 06:29 AM »
Jud, I like thf new front with the new angle, gets a bit of the lean back. John
 

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Re: Korean hornbeam
« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2013, 07:57 AM »
Yeah me too, although I see what Leo sees from the other side, that's why it was so long to really look here.  Happily the two sides are directly opposite, so I can develop it to the one side, but still keep the other side in mind.  What pot do you see this in?  I have some examples of colors from Paul K. that I'll post here later.  Shape is either rounded rectangle or oval I think.
 

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Re: Korean hornbeam
« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2013, 08:43 AM »
Rounded rectangle, a litte deeper. The light green will go well.
 

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Re: Korean hornbeam
« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2013, 02:03 PM »
Paul gave me permission to post the pots here that are the glaze ideas for the tree.  I have my ideas, but would love to hear what others think as well.  With pic #2 in mind, I'm thinking just the top part of the pot, above the textured part.  I like the textured part, but worry that it would be too distracting.

 

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Re: Korean hornbeam
« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2013, 02:09 PM »
And the last 4.  All nice pots, some are only slight variations, but important tonal variations.  To lip or not to lip?  Pot choices are hard...