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Alex_Curtis

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Horrendously ugly Elm ... Help!
« on: June 07, 2016, 07:46 AM »


Here you can see it is very ugly indeed. I bought it recently from the internet without seeing the specific tree. However I like the nebari a lot, very interesting. Also the tree is 20 years old and I feel inclined to make it look good. Any suggestions on how to improve?
 

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Re: Horrendously ugly Elm ... Help!
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2016, 11:36 AM »
1) As a general point, I would say that you should think about what the problems are.

This is pretty simple to tree to look at, right now. You can easily see every branch, every junction, every angle. That makes it easier to figure out.

So, think about potential fronts to show off the characteristics you like. For each of those, what are the problems or flaws that really bother YOU? Similarly, are there areas where something seems to YOU to be missing.

That would lead you to figure out what you might want to remove, reshape or even add (i.e., wait for something to grow or try an appropriate form of grafting).


2) Another approach might be to stick it in the ground for a few years and let it grow out, bud, and just go crazy. Then, when you come back to it, you have more options right in front of you.


3) Regardless of your approach, it is going to take time. That's the main thing.
 

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Re: Horrendously ugly Elm ... Help!
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2016, 11:41 AM »
1) As a general point, I would say that you should think about what the problems are.

This is pretty simple to tree to look at, right now. You can easily see every branch, every junction, every angle. That makes it easier to figure out.

So, think about potential fronts to show off the characteristics you like. For each of those, what are the problems or flaws that really bother YOU? Similarly, are there areas where something seems to YOU to be missing.

That would lead you to figure out what you might want to remove, reshape or even add (i.e., wait for something to grow or try an appropriate form of grafting).


2) Another approach might be to stick it in the ground for a few years and let it grow out, bud, and just go crazy. Then, when you come back to it, you have more options right in front of you.


3) Regardless of your approach, it is going to take time. That's the main thing.
I decided to go for number 2 just earlier on today actually. Was sick of the sight of the thing in my room! Hopefully it develops over the next few years.

Thanks for your response

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Re: Horrendously ugly Elm ... Help!
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2016, 01:00 PM »
My two cents. I'm not in love with all the twisty stuff. If your going into the ground... Or a large grow box, think about airlayering off the area after the first bend. Again just my two cents worth
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Re: Horrendously ugly Elm ... Help!
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2016, 02:22 PM »
My two cents. I'm not in love with all the twisty stuff. If your going into the ground... Or a large grow box, think about airlayering off the area after the first bend. Again just my two cents worth
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Thanks. I'll probably do just that. Twisting is horrible isn't it

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Re: Horrendously ugly Elm ... Help!
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2016, 04:40 AM »
Put it in the ground with shale and loess. Chop it just above the first bend. Or better yet. Break it off at the first bend. Water it thouroughly and forget about it for about fifteen years. It will be a very nice specimen by then
 

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Re: Horrendously ugly Elm ... Help!
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2016, 07:51 AM »
Put it in the ground with shale and loess. Chop it just above the first bend. Or better yet. Break it off at the first bend. Water it thouroughly and forget about it for about fifteen years. It will be a very nice specimen by then
   
  Why would you break it off?
 

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Re: Horrendously ugly Elm ... Help!
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2016, 04:38 AM »
 ???Not ugly at all!  Much better than stick in pot with great movement and twists of basic structure.  One suggestion is to eventually remove branch(s) inside of bends.  Can be used until later development to make trunk bigger.  You mentioned tree being in your room ::).  This is outdoor tree and needs to be there.  Will not do well at all and will likely die if kept inside.  Good find!
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